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Old 04-09-2006, 06:01 PM
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Yet another "traditional rod" built to kill

Every once in a while you just see something that someone has done that is so stupid you're left totally speechless. Here offered in the name of "traditional rods" is the latest example. Can you imagine this thing in a high speed (anything over 30 mph) evasive maneuver? Sometimes you just have to wonder how the DMV can allow junk like this on the road.....


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Old 04-09-2006, 06:08 PM
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I think it needs an Allinment

I also think that is the result of a few too many drunken nights in the fabrication stage. looks like that right wheel is tipped out more than the left
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Old 04-09-2006, 06:12 PM
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Yet another "traditional rod" built to kill

But it has a steering damper on it!! lol Perhaps it is a trailer queen.
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Old 04-09-2006, 06:27 PM
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that thing doesnt even deserve to be on a trailer
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Just way too much kinkpin inclination if you look at the axle. I know you guys don't see much of those type of cars on this site but it really is the latest fad. Many of them aren't registered and don't get driven. But also many do get driven.
This is a friends 32 that just did a 600+ mile round trip to the Lonestar nationals in Austin. It is actually now for sale.
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....... I know you guys don't see much of those type of cars on this site but it really is the latest fad. .......
I don't mind fads. They come and go like the wind. The problem I have is when someone follows a fad to the extreme and builds something as unsafe as the pic I posted, which by the way was from the Lonestar Nationals I believe.
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:59 PM
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Just way too much kinkpin inclination if you look at the axle. I know you guys don't see much of those type of cars on this site but it really is the latest fad. Many of them aren't registered and don't get driven. But also many do get driven.
This is a friends 32 that just did a 600+ mile round trip to the Lonestar nationals in Austin. It is actually now for sale.

600 Miles with open headers and bias ply tires?! oh god, that must have been awful.

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hence the fact it's for sale....
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My guess is the car in the original post is never driven under it's own power. I see a lot of those at shows. They just roll them off a trailer and let 'em sit. There are a few that are capable of making it around the fair grounds at 10 mph. But most are not licensed or driven on the street.

Obviously, many rat rods ARE driven on the street, but the really radical ones are pretty much for display purposes only. The only problem I have with that is some young or inexperienced guy comes along, doesn't realize the car is just for show, and then goes home and starts hacking one together themselves. Many hundreds or thousands of dollars later they realize the thing is totally unsafe and/or undrivable. And they have to either start over or join the ranks of trailer rats.

That being said, I still like to look at 'em.
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Ok, here is the anal in me, sorry guys. Willow, it isn't "King pin inclination", that looks stock (can't really change without bending the axle, built into it) it is "caster" that is way too much on this car. Like an old dragster, they have the axle leaning back to give it way more possitive caster (less rolling resistance).

Matt, the right tire SHOULD be tipped out more then the left, that is the "akermen" (sp?) angle at work. The inside tire needs to turn sharper because it is following a tighter radious than the outside tire. Like the runners on a track are staggered with the people on the inside of the track being placed further back because their lane is shorter than the runner on the outside of the track.

The reason it looks so crazy is because of the increased caster.

I know this is a piece of junk, and all but alignment wise, it would be very stable at high speeds with poor handling on corners.

Ok, beat me up.

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Ok, here is the anal in me, sorry guys. Willow, it isn't "King pin inclination", that looks stock (can't really change without bending the axle, built into it) it is "caster" that is way too much on this car. Like an old dragster, they have the axle leaning back to give it way more possitive caster (less rolling resistance).

Matt, the right tire SHOULD be tipped out more then the left, that is the "akermen" (sp?) angle at work. The inside tire needs to turn sharper because it is following a tighter radious than the outside tire. Like the runners on a track are staggered with the people on the inside of the track being placed further back because their lane is shorter than the runner on the outside of the track.

The reason it looks so crazy is because of the increased caster.

I know this is a piece of junk, and all but alignment wise, it would be very stable at high speeds with poor handling on corners.

Ok, beat me up.

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I do realize that 1 wheel always turns out more, just seemed that was an excessive amount, but it does look right now that I look real close.
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looks like a road grader front wheels, i guess the guy in the red shirt likes it, he taking a picture
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that right wheel is tipped out more than the left

Maybe it's an oval track racer. Looks like all it could do is go in circles!!!
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Just thought I would add my 2 cents. I still have my old dragster from the 60s and it dosen't even have that much caster in it. They put caster in them so they would drive Straight with out much muscle, they don't turn very good. On the track after about the 60ft. mark you can let go of the wheel and my car will drive it self.

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I don't mind fads. They come and go like the wind. The problem I have is when someone follows a fad to the extreme and builds something as unsafe as the pic I posted, which by the way was from the Lonestar Nationals I believe.
I'm with you there, it seems there always has to be someone to take everything to extremes. Fake stuff, fake patina, electronic fuel injection hidden in old hilborns, the 49 Olds vavle covers on 350 chevys. Running crappy old rag tires. Then those metal seats with no padding, how far could you drive that?
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