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Old 03-02-2009, 01:35 AM
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Zig Zag Springs

I'm still not sure how far I'll go as far as actually sewing my seat covers, however, I'll at least do everything else I can.

I bought the clips and Komatex boards to build my panels...so I'm waiting for that to show up.

Next I want to buy zig zag springs to fix the rotten springs in my seat. They offer 11 and 8 guage springs. Which one should I get...the heavier duty one?

Any other tools I might need to do spring repairs?

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Seat springs are 8 or 9 gauge (the smaller the number , the heavier the spring) and back springs are 11 or 12 gauge. If you are buying springs cut to length, they should already be "D" ended so they don't slip out of the clips. You also need to connect the springs together with a tie wire (oil impregnated wire wrapped tightly with kraft paper) so they don't spread apart when you sit on them.
You need SS clips to hold the springs in place, and BW clips to hold the tie wire to the springs. The tie wire should be attached under the springs, not on top. Check out this thread:
CLICK HERE Also check out this thread: CLICK HERE
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Thanks....the place I was looking to buy the springs sold it by the roll. Can you recommend any sites that will sell it to me by the foot?

Also my Komatex came in. As I cut to fit, should I leave 1/8" all the way around to account for the material....or maybe at least 1/16"?

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Send me a PM with how long the springs need to be, and I can cut and bend them for you. Remember, they need to be about 1 1/2" shorter than the distance between the front edges of the spring clips.

Yes, the Komatex should be about 1/8" smaller all the way around to account for the fabric thickness.
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Will do. I'll take a picture as well the show the missing springs....

I got my Auvecos and Komatex boards today. What is the alignment between the hole in the komatex and the hole in the metal? The clip is offset and it seems the hole in the metal aligns to the edge of the hole in the Komatex...

Any pictures available that shows the alignment?

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The holes line up with the holes in the door, only the holes in the panel board are 5/8" in farther towards the center of the door. Look at the door panel tutorial in post #6 for pictures.
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So the holes in the board are 5/8" inward from the center of the hole in the metal. How large should the hole in the metal be?

On my door, there seems to be a combination of holes from the original panel clips and sheet metal screw holes from somebody elses home make panels.
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About 1/4", or a little bigger.
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Back to the zig zag springs...here is a picture of my front bench..



Here's a close up...looks like they tried to tie things together at one point...



There is a thin flat metal that frames the bench. Here it's broken...what do I do about this?



Here is the drivers side back rest..



The middle spring has the top spring missing...

Her's the back benches in place....



The back seats don't have much damage to the springs....
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The thin flat piece is just a border and can be replaced with a piece of 8 gauge round border wire. With the odd shape of the seat springs, you may have to bend these springs yourself from 8 gauge wire to match what you have, or look for a donor car to get solid springs from. Here's a thread that might help you: CLICK HERE This is the perfect example of why the springs should be connected together from side to side across the middle to form one unit. If they had been connected from the beginning, you probably wouldn't have as much damage as you do.
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Dan...why couldn't I use zig zag springs that are a little different as long as I match the bend of the existing springs. I'm thinking anything I bend won't be exact anyways so I might as well use what's available. Or maybe pull all the springs on one side and have those all match or even redo them all.

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What you are going to find is that any springs you come up with will be radically different. You have the benefit of only having to match larger square bends which would be easier to duplicate, and there are only about three of them to do. These could be bent reasonably accurately on a small vise. The front seat back only has a broken kicker spring which wouldn't be hard to duplicate either.
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