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123pugsy 08-11-2019 07:25 AM

1941 Chrysler New Yorker Hot Rod
 
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Note: I will bring you up to date but it will take a while. I started this in 08 or so and then stopped to knock down my house and build a new one. The last time she was touched was 2014.

Edit: The pic in my avatar is a Photoshop by IDJ of this forum. It is not finished by a long shot.

1941 Chrysler New Yorker. Why the heck did I even buy it? I was looking at 37 Fords and 37-39 Chevys. As I was searching for the Chevys and Fords, I realized, I didn't want one for the same reason I didn't want my dream car, a 57 Chevy. There are just too many of them out there. I wanted something different. I had subscribed to Wheeler Dealer magazine out of Iowa, I believe, and I kept seeing an ad for this thing. The side view profile (1st pic) kept growing on me as I realized, I'd never seen a car like it before. I finally contacted the seller about 8 months later, and struck up a deal.


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123pugsy 08-11-2019 07:38 AM

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Here we go.....did i mention how ugly the car was. A big paper bag is required to date this thing. The first thing was to tear off the bumper, filler panel, and grill. I mocked up a couple of new grill openings. I was not much better than Chrysler's designers. :pain: So then, I thinks to myself that the reason I liked the 37 Ford so much was because it had those awesome tear drop headlights. I went to the local rod shop and grabbed a trim ring and that's when the trouble started. See how far in it is? Oh Gawd...what have I done?




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123pugsy 08-11-2019 07:40 AM

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I refuse to give up, so I fixed it.....




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idrivejunk 08-11-2019 01:43 PM

This looks like an interesting and creative story.:cool: You sure don't see those cars every day.

Thanks for posting!:thumbup:

123pugsy 08-11-2019 02:04 PM

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Thanks.


Next thing was to join Metalmeet.com to get some tips on how I would go about shaping a new patch so I could cut out the mess on the fender. I learned about the flexible shaped pattern and made one from the "buck" I had created with the modified metal slathered in Bondo. At just about the time I had the pattern ready, I received a PM from another member there, Ken Burt, (RIP). He invited me down to his place for a shaping session on a Sunday. What timing. I took my pattern and a chunk of steel with me. I had been tapping away in my garage previously, afraid to punch the hammer right thru the steel because it was getting too thin. When i got there, Darryl grabbed the piece and started wailing away. All right....if I'm allowed to do that, beauty. I grabbed that slab and went crazy on it. A few hours later, I had my first patch done. Ken had an English wheel which I used to smooth out the panel with. I came home, took the patch and it hugged the car. Wow, I was hooked.




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123pugsy 08-11-2019 02:09 PM

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Rinse and repeat on the other side, just flip the pattern inside out...............







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123pugsy 08-11-2019 02:16 PM

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Rinse, rinse, repeat.....another patch exactly same as the first one. This one was only to use as a buck. I cut off my ugly grill opening mock ups as well.....:sweat:






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123pugsy 08-11-2019 02:22 PM

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Several million hours later, making up bit by bit...........




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123pugsy 08-11-2019 03:35 PM

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123pugsy 08-11-2019 03:39 PM

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It was a scary day when my buddy and I had to tip the bottom edge, having never done something like this below. After doing so, it was all wonky and we thought we were toast until we realized we had to use the shrinker and stretcher to shape the newly formed flange.




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123pugsy 08-11-2019 03:46 PM

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Fender patches welded up and dressed. Then it was time to cut out all the buck material and add the fender tops and full face.


The front of the car was finally showing itself.


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KiwiStarChief 08-11-2019 06:41 PM

You are a braver man than I am. Keep up the good work, and the reports coming.

techinspector1 08-11-2019 09:36 PM

Holy Chit man, PUGSY FOR PRIME MINISTER.

123pugsy 08-12-2019 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiStarChief (Post 4688855)
You are a braver man than I am. Keep up the good work, and the reports coming.


Thanks, braver, no, just plain dumb I thinks....ha.....


I brought the car into the shop yesterday after five years and I'm overwhelmed at the moment with the amount of work left to do. :sweat:


I'll keep plugging away a bit every day until this thread is up to date.

123pugsy 08-12-2019 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by techinspector1 (Post 4688881)
Holy Chit man, PUGSY FOR PRIME MINISTER.


Ha.....:D....well, I'm sure I could do better than the clown we got....

123pugsy 08-12-2019 03:25 PM

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I mocked up the front of the hood and painted some grills on the front for a look see..........




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123pugsy 08-12-2019 03:29 PM

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I made a hammer form for new headlight plates as the pieces i had used the first time were horrendous. The last pic shows the mess that was on there.


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123pugsy 08-12-2019 03:36 PM

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So, things are moving along pretty good at this time, or so I thought, when I realized the bottom edge of the hood would need to be like a roller coaster to follow this new front clip. I had matched my patterns and buck very carefully. It would have helped tremendously had I made the buck the right shape to begin with.....D'OH!


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123pugsy 08-12-2019 03:42 PM

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If that wasn't back enough, the headlight plates were canted inwards towards the inside. Set number three coming up. I made a jig to hold them straight as I installed them.




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123pugsy 08-12-2019 03:47 PM

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Forgot to post some pics when I shoved it outside for a look see before cutting out the grills and trimming up the hood opening.




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123pugsy 08-12-2019 04:00 PM

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I scored a couple of 37 Ford headlight buckets on eBay. I soaked them in molasses for some super easy rust removal. Added turn signals at the bottoms.





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123pugsy 08-12-2019 04:04 PM

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I got some halogen lights from Bob Drake I believe. I cut some 24 ga stainless from work to line the buckets and added a cover over the turn signals.




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123pugsy 08-12-2019 04:09 PM

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Finally got the front clip kind of done, but not really.




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123pugsy 08-12-2019 04:12 PM

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A lot of metal finishing later, but still has little waves and bumps in it. A bit of Bondo will be fine with me.






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123pugsy 08-12-2019 04:14 PM

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In primer:






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123pugsy 08-13-2019 02:29 PM

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Sandblasting always brings out the worst in old tin....damn, I thought I had a relatively rust free deck lid.




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123pugsy 08-13-2019 02:34 PM

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123pugsy 08-13-2019 02:39 PM

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idrivejunk 08-13-2019 06:18 PM

Nice save on the lid.

123pugsy 08-13-2019 08:35 PM

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Nice save on the lid.


Thanks.
It was a ton of work metal finishing as I had no experience on low crown panels when I made the patch, so I had to finish shaping it after welding it into position....damn....


Crazy project to take on when you know nothing, eh? :rolleyes:

John long 08-13-2019 09:34 PM

Good to see her back on the forum Pugs. I am excited to see you back to work on her.

John

idrivejunk 08-13-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 123pugsy (Post 4689395)
Thanks.
It was a ton of work metal finishing as I had no experience on low crown panels when I made the patch, so I had to finish shaping it after welding it into position....damn....


Crazy project to take on when you know nothing, eh? :rolleyes:

I wouldn't call that lid low crown, at least not the whole skin. What I see looks to be a nice end result and if you learned a lesson, that was bonus. Its not like you're on a clock at home and all any man can do is what he believes is right at the time. I don't see anybody asking how long what took and stuff. You sure picked right up on the shaping and I know I appreciate tips you pass along concerning that. :thumbup:

123pugsy 08-14-2019 07:15 PM

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I'll post a few pics of the chassis in case you're wondering on the next upcoming posts when you see it and no progress posts on it.


I used stainless steel for everything. Since I built it, I have discovered that it may work harden and get brittle as it vibrates. I'm talking the metal itself, not the welds. The chassis will be scrapped and a new one will be made later from mild steel and probably powder coated.




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John long 08-14-2019 08:25 PM

That hurts me all over again every time you mention it.:mad:

John

John long 08-14-2019 08:33 PM

That hurts me all over again every time you mention it.:mad:

John

idrivejunk 08-15-2019 07:01 AM

I don't have words for that one but am uninjured. The steel one will be just as remarkable, of that I am sure. Maybe a way to re-purpose this will come to you. Keep an eye out for that, and keep going.

idrivejunk 08-15-2019 12:40 PM

I just have a feeling that in some roundabout way, your build will get a boost from whatever happens to that chassis. I mean if nothing else, you have your 3D blueprint so you know what to cut to get busy. Move on along, no wallowing in disgust. The day when the past thing is out of your hair, your enthusiasm for what is to come will be catalyzed by that. Regardless, it is a beautiful design. That won't change. But to really go to town on that body, you know you gotta spit out a chassis. I have faith. Force some momentum before it gets too cold out because you will wither and perish without something juicy to lay hands on.

123pugsy 08-15-2019 04:37 PM

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Thanks.


What else would I do with my spare time? I get the odd 5 minutes here and there....


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123pugsy 08-15-2019 04:42 PM

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123pugsy 08-15-2019 04:48 PM

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and some more....trunk was a pretty big project, but the beauty thing is that I got another rubber band tire off the streets...every little bit helps...




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