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With it cleaned up and on the ground I could see what I had. The good thing is for the most part "it's all there" .. but what's there is rough. It shows signs of prior bondo work, long before the cows in the barn decided to knock and rub on it. The entire undercarriage is ROTTED .. so much so that the mount that holds the left rear spring loaded trailing arm to the body decided to break, and hit the ground with a bang like a gunshot.

I don't think even a Mercedes purist would blame me for cutting this one up into a hot rod. There wasn't enough there to restore, and not much to donate as far as a parts car goes either.



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It's only a problem if you place more importance on aesthetics than you do on mechanical operation. I couldn't care less what something looks like, as long as it works well. A steering box hanging off the front of the car is no big deal to me.

Most of the stuff I built through the years never made it to paint. I just didn't see it as that important.
I have done a few clip's using the s-10 on the older cars and the box would always in up in the grill or the apron,, Doesn't look good cutting out the apron on say a 50 coupe or something,,, I tend to make things look like it came with the car..


I did install a rack on a s-10 and didn't have to change much at all..
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I was able to get a little history on the car. Apparently it was bought brand new in 1959 (1958 model/production year) by a judge in Rappahannock County Virginia. He used the car as daily transportation until 1979 (the last stickers on the license plates) when the car developed engine trouble. The cylinder head was pulled off, and apparently the cost of repairs was more than the judge was willing to put into the then 21 year old car so it was parked in a field. Around 2002, the judge had passed away and the car was put for sale in an estate auction. The man I bought it from, had bought the car at the auction and drug it back to his barn where it sat for another ten years before I got it. So I guess that makes me the third owner.
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I did install a rack on a s-10 and didn't have to change much at all..
What rack did you use?
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I did install a rack on a s-10 and didn't have to change much at all..
Did you do the rack as front steer or rear steer? What rack did you use?
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I was able to get a little history on the car. Apparently it was bought brand new in 1959 (1958 model/production year) by a judge in Rappahannock County Virginia. He used the car as daily transportation until 1979 (the last stickers on the license plates) when the car developed engine trouble. The cylinder head was pulled off, and apparently the cost of repairs was more than the judge was willing to put into the then 21 year old car so it was parked in a field. Around 2002, the judge had passed away and the car was put for sale in an estate auction. The man I bought it from, had bought the car at the auction and drug it back to his barn where it sat for another ten years before I got it. So I guess that makes me the third owner.
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I've never been a fan of four door cars. Neither the 219 nor its little brothers the 180 and 190 were ever available as two doors. The big brother 220S was available as a two door coupe or cabriolet, but the body of those cars was a bit of a departure from that of the 180/190/219 and 220 four doors.

Looking at the body lines and the flat side glass, a two door conversion may be very do-able




Found a line art drawing of the side view of a 219 on the interweb .. and played around with the lines in the Paint program until the proportions looked good. Hmmm ..
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I didn't buy the rack,, It was on this s-10 that hit the wall at 100 + and was done in.. My friend had me change the front frame section.. He had the new rack already,,And has been running the truck for I think the pass few years..leaves 2.5' off the ground every pass.. I installed the rack to the front side of the crossmember..Had to cut a little hole to pass the steering shaft to the rack... Everything went together very nice..I don't have any pictures as far as I know.. I did take some before shot's..

Didn't mean to hj the thread,, But it may give you some idea's..

The black circles is where the rack was on the old frame,, And the top circle is the hole through the frame to pass the steering shaft..



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Did you do the rack as front steer or rear steer? What rack did you use?
As far as I know it was just a mustang II rack... It was on the front..
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This is a Mercedes 180 undercarriage .. other than the fact that it is a 4 cyl and shorter from the firewall forward it is the same design as the 219 undercarriage.

The red dot indicates where the S10 steering box will be in relation to the undercarriage. The front frame rails of the S10 follow the same dimensions as the front frame horns of the Mercedes.



The plan is to cut everything outside of the dimensions of the S10 frame, and tie it all in together solid to keep it a unibody construction rather than converting it to body on frame.
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I've never been a fan of four door cars. Neither the 219 nor its little brothers the 180 and 190 were ever available as two doors. The big brother 220S was available as a two door coupe or cabriolet, but the body of those cars was a bit of a departure from that of the 180/190/219 and 220 four doors.

Looking at the body lines and the flat side glass, a two door conversion may be very do-able




Found a line art drawing of the side view of a 219 on the interweb .. and played around with the lines in the Paint program until the proportions looked good. Hmmm ..
While you're playing with it, why not try a shorter version? What if the rear of the longer front door was right at the front of the rear wheel well opening on the 2-door version? Might make a really cute little MB single-seat coupe. You could fabricate a nice little opera window on the side too.

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I started searching craigslist for a donor S10. I found the perfect candidate - a 1987 regular cab short bed 108 wheel base truck. The asking price was $1200. I called him up and he said it had been sitting for a year because both a brake line and a fuel line blew out at the same time. I offered him a low ball of half his asking price - $600. He said he couldn't do that. I said ok, good luck. He called me back 15 minutes later and asked if I could do $800. I told him if I had to load it up and trailer it the best I could do was $600. He asked if I could meet him in the middle at $700, I agreed and a deal was struck. Here's how it was found.



I brought with me some brake line, fuel line, hoses, a battery, a can of gas, and all the tools I thought I would need. I laid under the truck on my back in a pile of leaves spiders and bugs in the dark for 3 hours but I got it running, got a brake pedal, and drove it 65 miles back to the shop.



I was worried about critters crawling on me the whole way.

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While you're playing with it, why not try a shorter version? What if the rear of the longer front door was right at the front of the rear wheel well opening on the 2-door version? Might make a really cute little MB single-seat coupe. You could fabricate a nice little opera window on the side too.

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I had thought of that .. but I want to make it look like it was factory. I want people to walk on it and think that nothing was done to the body. I'm sure most people will never know that they never made a Mercedes 219 two door. I have a radical custom truck that is chopped, channeled, sectioned, etc and everyone knows it's been modified. I want this one to be a little sneaky.
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With all of my other projects, work, and life in general I knew it would be a while before I was ready to strip the S10 down to its chassis. Also, not being one to leave things alone, I cleaned up the S10, did a few little things to it, put some big tires on the back, and made a daily driver out of it. The 2.5 four cylinder iron duke had 210,000 miles on it, used a quart of oil every 500 miles, and smoked like a freight train but still got 24 mpg. After adding some Royal Purple Synchromax, the Isuzu 4 speed manual trans shifted like butter. I added some 2.5 RS decals from a Subaru Impreza RS to the bedsides.



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Nice. Well done. Hard to beat a $700 daily driver.
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