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Old 01-31-2014, 07:39 AM
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1958 Mercedes Hot Rod on a S10 Frame

I found this 1958 Mercedes 219 Ponton four door sedan on ebay. It was labeled as a "barn find" and was fairly close to me. The bidding opened at $500, and on a whim I placed a bid with a maximum of $600. The end of the auction I was outbid. A few days later I got a message from the seller saying the winner bid backed out, and offered me a second chance. I accepted and bought the car.

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The 219 was a very interesting car. Given the chassis designation W105 by Mercedes, it was a cross between the low line 180 and 190 series and the high line 220 series. from the firewall back, it had the shorter body of the four cylinder 180 and 190, but from the firewall forward it had the long nose and powertrain of the six cylinder 220 series. It also shared many components with the sporty 190SL and 300SL.

The 219 was only built from 1956 to 1959, with a total production of 27,845. The straight six made 85 horsepower, and by the serial number this particular car from the factory had the problematic optional semi-automatic transmission that Mercedes called the Hydrak. There were so many issues, that Mercedes dealers began converting the Hydraks to standard four-speed column shift transmissions, and this car apparently had that done at some point. The rear end is a unique independent swing axle that pivots at the pumpkin. The trans and rear end are connected by a torque tube driveshaft that runs through the center tunnel of the unibody subframe.
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Pictures from the ebay listing prior to me buying it.



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1958 Mercedes Benz 219, wheelbase 108.3", front track 56.3", rear track 57.9".

1982-'93 Chevy S-10 standard cab, 73" box, 1982-'93 GMC reg cab, 73" box (stock Malibu and El Camino spindles are bolt-on) wheelbase 108.3", front track 54.5", rear track 54.7"

Looks like a great match to me, with room for wider tires and bigger brakes from a G body.


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1958 Mercedes Benz 219, wheelbase 108.3", front track 56.3", rear track 57.9".

1982-'93 Chevy S-10 standard cab, 73" box, 1982-'93 GMC reg cab, 73" box (stock Malibu and El Camino spindles are bolt-on) wheelbase 108.3", front track 54.5", rear track 54.7"

Looks like a great match to me, with room for wider tires and bigger brakes from a G body.


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Yes - an amazingly good match dimension-wise. I was a little afraid that the way the steering box sits so far forward on the S10 chassis it might end up poking through the grill, but after some careful measuring looks like it will sit right behind the front crossmember of the Mercedes (the bar that the front bumper attaches to).
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The day I went to pick it up.


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Hauled it back to the shop and cleaned off the barn dust owl poop and cow crap to see what I had.




I found the hood had a weak spot where the hinges attach .. gonna have to fix that
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Yes - an amazingly good match dimension-wise. I was a little afraid that the way the steering box sits so far forward on the S10 chassis it might end up poking through the grill, but after some careful measuring looks like it will sit right behind the front crossmember of the Mercedes (the bar that the front bumper attaches to).
The steering box is a problem on the s-10 frame swap's on the older cars..
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The steering box is a problem on the s-10 frame swap's on the older cars..
The steering box location seems to be the biggest potentially negative point to the S10 chassis. I have seen some folks end up hacking up the front crossmember and reworking the front end extensively to take a rack and pinion (which has to be really narrow) .. by the time you go through all of that you might has well have fabbed a 2x4 frame with MII front suspension.
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The steering box is a problem on the s-10 frame swap's on the older cars..
It's only a problem if you place more importance on aesthetics than you do on mechanical operation. I couldn't care less what something looks like, as long as it works well. A steering box hanging off the front of the car is no big deal to me.

Most of the stuff I built through the years never made it to paint. I just didn't see it as that important.
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