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Old 02-13-2017, 10:33 AM
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What would be the amperage draw of these EPS units? Would a typical older GM alternator be able to keep up with one?

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I have 130amp alternator. A friend of mine is running is Falcon with only 65amp alternator.

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Don't get offended by my .02 cents

Hot Rodding is Hot Rodding. I know some introduce newer parts on there older things (cars n trucks) but come on the old junk is where it is at, make it work with the older stuff. That's why it is called a Hot Rod not some kind of Hot "E" Rod E thing. Just my .02 on E parts, making up my mind for me in if at all they will work when a situation prompts a quick decision I don't like the idea of a piece of wire & some kind of sensor that makes a decision for me. This is why we are in a shi+ hole of problems when we introduce more into some thing that will work just fine with a more mechanical way or idea of doing it.

I also have worked for a local Automobile dealer that I have seen too many times after time a Mechanic PRACTICING on someones Wallet to see how much they can Extract from it in Labor Cost because he can't find or trace down the problem in the Electrical system. *** I'll go back in time and give you all some bit of Facts about when in our early stages of our Space Shuttle Launching's that A Computer on the shuttle and a Computer on the ground couldn't talk to one another. That was a "E" thing and each Computer probably cost up words in the Millions and the E things in our vehicles are of a much Cheaper version. Its your Life and others around you while driving that are most important. I myself am going backward to my old 64 Chevy car & my 68 C10, OLD SCHOOL BABE !!! like I said before my .02 cents

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While your statement is true I have enjoyed the opportunity to serve in the armed forces and incurred some injuries in Vietnam which left me with one good arm and leg therefore I have to find alternative means to do most things.

Try this, first spend 14.5 years in a wheelchair, then tie you left arm behind your back and bind your left leg to your thigh at knee level, then at 68 years old change out a tranny, engine or just wash and wax you car. Asshat!
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I was call al kind of names for putting a backup camera in my Camaro.
I was actually told I shouldn't be driving if I need a camera to back up.
my reason for having the camera, I have 2 ruptured disks
in my neck and have limited movement
some people just don't realize how lucky they are
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While your statement is true I have enjoyed the opportunity to serve in the armed forces and incurred some injuries in Vietnam which left me with one good arm and leg therefore I have to find alternative means to do most things.

Try this, first spend 14.5 years in a wheelchair, then tie you left arm behind your back and bind your left leg to your thigh at knee level, then at 68 years old change out a tranny, engine or just wash and wax you car. Asshat!
First of all let me (if I could) shake your hand (no pun intended) in serving in the Military. Sorry to here for your loss of limbs, and I applaud you for doing what some people would find hard to do or impossible. Why all the hostility dude? I can understand your limitations and that you can move past them to get what needs done for you but why do you use your Injuries to make a point. Wow that was coming right out of Left field "Asshat"
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I was call al kind of names for putting a backup camera in my Camaro.
I was actually told I shouldn't be driving if I need a camera to back up.
my reason for having the camera, I have 2 ruptured disks
in my neck and have limited movement
some people just don't realize how lucky they are
For what its worth a camera doesn't slam on the brakes for you while backing up, you have to do that yourself. I get it about the Ruptured Disks, I have had two Back Surgeries almost back to back and I also have Blown Out Disks still so I do and Can feel your pain. The point was I don't want some Computer/sensor/E wire making my Decisions for me I can do that myself.
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For whom this Concerns. I am Sorry for my post that I guess turned into a Pissing Contest here. It wasn't intended to turn out the way it did.
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Don't get offended by my .02 cents

Hot Rodding is Hot Rodding.
Not offended at all. To each his own.

Some people are content with flat head and single barrel carb with 4 wheel drum brakes. I guess those are the "real" hot rodders

I way I see it, this is a low buck upgrade that I did that eliminated hydraulic system and gain little bit of power and clean engine bay. I though that's what they did back in the day. Innovate.

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Not offended at all. To each his own.

Some people are content with flat head and single barrel carb with 4 wheel drum brakes. I guess those are the "real" hot rodders

I way I see it, this is a low buck upgrade that I did that eliminated hydraulic system and gain little bit of power and clean engine bay. I though that's what they did back in the day. Innovate.

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RE: EPS size

Posted earlier requesting some measurements of a typical EPS, haven't gotten an answer yet so ran some rough measurements of the area I have to work with. Roughly 7 5/8" wide by 8" long. Another problem that I foresee is the heat from the engine and the headers. Anybody have an idea of how much heat they can withstand? You can see the burnt paint from when I had the timing waaay retarded. lol
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You must put the EPS unit inside the cab to avoid engine heat. This is true with all EPS units, aftermarket or adapted from a production car. This involves shortening and adapting to the steering column. This is not for the average wrencher. It involves top quality machining and welding. It also requires good solid mounts to withstand the output torque of unit. In max assist, the output torque is about 8-10 times the input torque. See site below for an example that has some of the work already done at substantial cost.
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On the 2008 Versa EPS control module which pin is the one that you run ignition power to? My module has two large connectors for battery and motor and a multi-pin connector with 16 small pins. I didn't get the wire harness with it so I need a pin count to know which pin is the correct one to run key power to.
I can't find a wiring diagram of these connection either, which would help.

I found it! It's marked in the pic of the diagram you posted. Thanks a lot!

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2007-2009 Nissan Versa wiring

Using the 2007-2009 Nissan Versa EPS but didn't get any wiring or connectors with it (ebay). I have your 2008 Nissan Versa wiring jpg but not sure which pins are the correct ones for the torque sensor wires on the the EPS module pins. The torque sensor has wires (red, yellow, black and white) but they terminated at the column mount.I have included a pic of my EPS module if you'd be so nice as to head me in the right direction.
Also, the motor wires were connected to the left most pins and I'm not sure if this correct.
Been trying to find a 07-09 versa in local salvage yard to get connectors and wiring from but no luck yet. Not really sure what size the pins in module are either. I think .061/1.2mm?
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See the picture of my Versa ECU. The Orange wire is the Ignition On +12V. You will need the little small wire harness that goes from the ECU to the Torque Sensor.

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