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Old 07-24-2014, 09:08 PM
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your progress is like an inspiration thanks and keep those pix coming

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How about a couple of "before pictures" to make the in progress pictures easier to relate to.







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Finished welding in the flange. Looks like the factory spot welded in there 60 years ago.




When you back up and look at the whole floor, it is beginning to look like a car.




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That is a stunning transformation right there. It DOES look like a car again...
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How frustrating!

I called a buddy and got permission to use his 4ft brake to make this convertible top well and laid out the pattern on the blank.

Huh Oh, The beads are 20 inches from the end and my bead roller only has an 18 inch throat. I probably should have just laid out a pattern that would work with my bead roller but instead I cut it in half.

I have had to make everything else in pieces, why not this?

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looks just like a 51

john did you cut it in half so I could use half in my 51 and u could use half in yours
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just joking on the previous post

john did you make paper patterns first and if so do you have them maybe I could use them to make mine mike
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john did you cut it in half so I could use half in my 51 and u could use half in yours
I hate to sound selfish but I cut it in half because i am too ch ch che chea frugal to buy good tools.

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not cheeeeep

john with the quality of the work that you do I think the tools that you have are just fine
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john did you make paper patterns first and if so do you have them maybe I could use them to make mine mike
I am sorry Mike I did not. Started with the flat metal you see in the picture and drew a center line. Then I laid it out from the center line to each bead.

Example: First bead 4 inches from center line, second 11 inches third 21 inches.

Then I laid out the 2 bends front to back.

The first bead is 4 inches from center, second 11 inches from center, third 21 inches from center.



Here is the access hole to the convertible pump with the ruler positioned from the center line.



The front bend is 1 3/4 inches and the second bend is 4 3/4 from the front of the panel.



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thanks for the info I will keep for reference
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Some months ago I was watching one of Lazze's videos on using the bead roller. One of his tricks was to run the panel through the English Wheel with a high crown roller to stretch the area along the bead. The beading process would then have metal to draw from and limit the distortion in the panel.

I had never done this and thought I would go ahead and try it. Wow, what a differance. My panel came out without all the stress that is normally there. This is a good trick guys and well worth doing. Thanks Lazze.

This is the high crown wheel I used to stretch about a 3/4 in area along the bead.



I think you can even see in the picture how nice and flat the panel is without the distortion that usually goes along with a heavy 1/2 inch bead.



On the above picture you can also see the pattern I made out of 3mm panel board for a guide for my plasma cutter. I made 2 of them and glued them together to make a 1/4 inch thick pattern. I will cut it outside because it will set my smoke alarm off if I do it in the basement. This is the access hole for the hydraulic pump.

It is taped in place and ready to go.



I did not intend to update until I had the panel made but I was really excited about the way this worked out and was anxious to share.

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Panel looks great. I remember watching that last year and mentioning it to you. I don't have a high crown roller for my wheel..

Did you make the cutout 1/8" larger than you need to allow for the tip ???
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Panel looks great. I remember watching that last year and mentioning it to you. I don't have a high crown roller for my wheel..

Did you make the cutout 1/8" larger than you need to allow for the tip ???
Absolutely. I allowed a little over 1/8 inch in my pattern which should put the cut on the line. I have also found that 1/4 inch thick guide will keep the tip a few thousands off the material. I believe this is why I am still on the original tip that came with the machine. I usually use a 1/4 inch wooden lattice strip for a straight guide.

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well i will say this , so far this is 100%++ better then when it was new!! Randy is doing Short Fuse & this should be called Overkill!!!! Super Work John. Wish you lived closer i would be you Grunt any day. Thanks again for showing us the good stuff!!!!!!
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well i will say this , so far this is 100%++ better then when it was new!! Randy is doing Short Fuse & this should be called Overkill!!!! Super Work John. Wish you lived closer i would be you Grunt any day. Thanks again for showing us the good stuff!!!!!!
Thanks Killer. If Randy was doing this it would be done by now.

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Thanks Killer. If Randy was doing this it would be done by now.

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Not a chance...When making the panels match like your doing it takes time,,, I hand made some like that and does take time...Keep up the great work,, I know what goes into it...
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