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Old 07-24-2018, 05:45 PM
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:15 AM
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I am kind of perplexed about this front clip. If you guys remember, the other fenders were about 1/4 inch short compared to the hood. With this front end the same situation is occuring but to a lesser extent.

I mocked the front clip up and set the hood on. No hinges, no latch, it is just sitting there. When I adjust the hood so it fits the cowl and move the fenders so they line up with the front of the hood, I end up with close to 1/4" door gaps.

The gaps for the hood/fenders and the curvature of the hood along the fenders is pretty good. I wonder if years of people sitting on the hood, ( it is sunk in a little) and years of slamming it maybe causes it to spread slightly toward the front.

Maybe I should just say the heck with it, add 3/16 or whatever to the back of the fenders and call it good.

Here is the hood gaps.







All in all, I am pretty pleased. Adding a liitle material to the fenders would not be the end of the world and I certainly would rather have wide gaps as to have the doors chipping paint somewhere. Maybe I should go ahead and mock it up with my new grill?

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Just thinking out loud ,but I wonder if the tension of the hood springs might pull it back ( bow ) it some to an acceptable level,which 3/8 might close up some once you get the hinges mounted so you can push back on the front bottom it might be all you need .
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If you had it mounted to the hinges, you could wad up some blankets or moving pads on the engine to push the sag up when the hood is down and then push back on the front edge to see if it will move an 1/8th. I think you can get the front lip to move that much without changing the arch enough to notice.
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Just thinking out loud ,but I wonder if the tension of the hood springs might pull it back ( bow ) it some to an acceptable level,which 3/8 might close up some once you get the hinges mounted so you can push back on the front bottom it might be all you need .
That is an interesting thought David. Maybe I should go ahead and order the cowl lacing and get the hinges ready to mount and install the hood as designed. Also, if I install inner fender panels and add a little bow to the top of the fenders, that might bring the front of the fender back ever so slightly. The fender is a little low along the middle along the food and they are pretty flexible in that area.

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If you had it mounted to the hinges, you could wad up some blankets or moving pads on the engine to push the sag up when the hood is down and then push back on the front edge to see if it will move an 1/8th. I think you can get the front lip to move that much without changing the arch enough to notice.
That also makes sense. I may look at using the rear inner brace for a source to pull from.

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That hood looks like one you could maybe take the skin off of. I wonder.

My first thought is that alteration of the hood rear edge is just one panel and it faces the sky, so doing that might be easier than fenders if shortening the hood slightly would help it.

But if the hood is gently squashed, heavens yes that could make the front poke out. I would venture that a couple experiments with a carefully placed ratchet strap down the center and or across the middle (of the hood itself) would indicate if the steel remembers a different shape, probably without committing to actually bending it that way. But if you needed to push the middle up, you could put a block there with the crossed straps across it so it would push...
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:27 PM
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All these thoughts are very much appreciated. I just got help to set the hood on about 4 today and started to clean up for church about 5 so I have not done anything yet but move things around a little. All these ideas will be considered for sure.

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The hood has become a rather interesting item. The spring for the allignment pin is broken in two places, the area around the hood ornament is caved in as if someone sat on the ornament. Thirdly there is a stress crack on one side about where the hood begins to turn down toward the front.

I am going to measure the hood closely and see if repairing this dent helps bring the leading age back a skosh. If that does not help I am going to put a couple of ratchet straps to the front and weld the sides while keeping the hood under tension. That shoud surely bring the leading edge in 3/16" or so.

First step is to strip it and get a couple coats of my favorite epoxy on it. I was pleasently surprized to find the under side has only one respray on it. Under the orange is undercoating and then the origional dark metalic grean paint.



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Today was a really good day. I took some good measurements of the hood and decided to see what was under the paint. Actually the hood is pretty dog gone good.

Notice how good the origional green laquer is in. I wish the fenders were undercoated like that!:





The hood was sunk in at the area just behind the hood ornament. Either I am very good or very lucky. Lucky most likely, but I set the front of the hood on a stack of short pieces of 2x4 that I placed on my little round steel welding table. While gently but firmly pushing down on the hood, I went around the outer edge of the sunken place with my slapper. It took about ten minutes to bring the low spot up. I am ecstatic about this.




Lastly, I started stripping the hood. It is interesting that I found orange paint, a thin coat of sealer, a gray high build primer and dtm red primer. There was not a sign of green paint. There were two small spots of body filler but nothing to cause concern. There is also a small spot that looks like a carburator fire but it is on the wrong side of the hood I have to wonder what caused it. The hood definitely was stripped to bare metal the last time it was painted

Don't you wish these old cars could talk to you. So many questions and no way to get answers.


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Spots are probably from heat shrinking rosebuds with the torch.


There, she's talking to you now. Previous owner had their kid up there for a photo and the hood got dented. This is a true story........in my mind.....
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Spots are probably from heat shrinking rosebuds with the torch.


There, she's talking to you now. Previous owner had their kid up there for a photo and the hood got dented. This is a true story........in my mind.....
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See John, the car doesn't need to talk to you...we got your back.
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OK, now do you have any pictures explaining the wear and tear in the back seat?

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