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Yeah, in front is always better. But I am going to put my trucks in the frame as it was from the factory.


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Yupper. My roadster is still in the frame too. Right under the passengers feet.

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The inner fender location is a good choice,,short cables dont loose amperage like a trunk mounted battery,,my Corvettes both have battery located in lower inner fender jus loosen 2 10 mm bolts no need to remove panel is slotted and cover slides off exposing the battery mmbut you can still reach it if you need to connect a charger ,I have permenant wired battery tenders mount on most of mine because most dont get driven a lot.


Not sayin you should just an idea,
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The inner fender location is a good choice,,short cables dont loose amperage like a trunk mounted battery,,my Corvettes both have battery located in lower inner fender jus loosen 2 10 mm bolts no need to remove panel is slotted and cover slides off exposing the battery mmbut you can still reach it if you need to connect a charger ,I have permenant wired battery tenders mount on most of mine because most dont get driven a lot.


Not sayin you should just an idea,
It's actually a very good idea. I have a friend who tucked an Optima battery on it's side under the rear portion of the fender of his '34 Ford.

An Optima battery is not in my plans. Probably the battery is going to be around the lower firewall or notched into the RH inner fender. I would prefer a neat enough inner fender assembly that it will look good in body color. Better semi-gloss black than body color that can't be kept clean though.

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It's actually a very good idea. I have a friend who tucked an Optima battery on it's side under the rear portion of the fender of his '34 Ford.

An Optima battery is not in my plans. Probably the battery is going to be around the lower firewall or notched into the RH inner fender. I would prefer a neat enough inner fender assembly that it will look good in body color. Better semi-gloss black than body color that can't be kept clean though.

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I removed my Optima battery and returned them,,the first only lasted about 2 weeks and would not recharge,,the second one would die in about 30 days and a Standard charger will NOT charge them,,,i bought a special charger for gel,dry ,and flooded batteries,,they have a lot of starting power and are good for marine use where they get a lot of bouncing around without hurting them,
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I removed my Optima battery and returned them,,the first only lasted about 2 weeks and would not recharge,,the second one would die in about 30 days and a Standard charger will NOT charge them,,,i bought a special charger for gel,dry ,and flooded batteries,,they have a lot of starting power and are good for marine use where they get a lot of bouncing around without hurting them,
There was a fellow in Ringold, Ga who had a speed equipment store. Jim sold Optima batteries. I was in the store one day 8-10 years ago and saw a stack of Optmas in the corner. When I asked him about them he said they were returns he was trying to get warrenty on. I decided then I don't want one.

Road tractors have been using gel batteries for 25 years with good results but they can also be damaged by incorrect charging rates.

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The one thing I'd really love to see is someone come up with a lithium-ion battery that is a drop-in replacement (form, fit & function) for the current automotive batteries.
I haven't seen any that manage that completely.


The closest one I saw is for competition applications, and doesn't allow jump-starting. And I'm not sure it would support being charged by an alternator.


I dearly love the lion tool set that I bought at lowes ~7 years ago. Given what I've seen in the 10 years previous to that, I figure another 3-5 years and we should see lion batteries for replacement of standard BCI group numbers that are form, fit, & function compatible.
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I crawled under the dash of the '53 a couple of weeks ago and found my 21 LED light burning. I had left it on the day before powered by twp Lithium AA cells.

Pretty impressive. If they make it out of Lithium Ion, I will buy it.

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They do make and sell them..Kelly runs 3 of these in the front of his Ranger boat for the trolling motor 36v,,they will run all weekend without recharge,,,they offer a 300 amp but VERY expencive.

https://www.lithiumion-batteries.com...aK16V33B81JdDc
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They do make and sell them..Kelly runs 3 of these in the front of his Ranger boat for the trolling motor 36v,,they will run all weekend without recharge,,,they offer a 300 amp but VERY expencive.

https://www.lithiumion-batteries.com...aK16V33B81JdDc
I think THIS is the link you wanted.....

https://www.lithiumion-batteries.com...m-ion-battery/
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The good news is, You guys have made a $150 3 year lead acid battery seem like a very frugal solution for my needed battery.

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I buy NAPA batteries for right around $100. I have 5 and not 1 has failed and the oldest is 6 years old now.

I remember the Optima debacle years ago and never wanted one either. My friend, John, has gone thru 3 now. The latest is 2 years old, so we'll see if it makes another summer. They are not ideal for seasonal, or seldom driven cars.
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I think THIS is the link you wanted.....

https://www.lithiumion-batteries.com...m-ion-battery/
Those are the ones that so expencive,,Kelly has a friend that workd for a company installing th cell phone towers and they use these batteies and they replace them every year so most are still good so we get them for free,just give them the our old battery for a return, mine was getting weak after so many charges so when I sold my bassboat I let it go with the boat.Andy works at the shop now so I hope we can still have acess to the batteries..

The weight is the only drawbac on the big batteries.
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I have spent a good deal of time trying to decide what I wanted to do with the battery. I even crawled under the car to see if I needed to change my mind about mounting it in the trunk.

Alas, I think the thing to do is build the inner fender panels and see how to incorperate the battery box into them, so here I go.

I started playing with making transition panel templates out of some flimsy 22 ga that has been around here for years. It will be easier than cardboard for this.





From the transition panel the inner fender well drops down with a 45 degree angle in it and then drops down to the frame. I had to scratch my head to come up with the formula to figure how much the angled portion would shorten the panel and then add that distance to it.

You can see the dotted lines in the middle of it where it kicks in 45 degrees.




I hope I have it figured right. Splitting the pattern and dropping it the amount I compute the joggle will shorten it should make it come out the right length. I am still using the junk 22 ga to experiment with.

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Getting close. Bought a new sheet of 18 ga today.

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from the paper pattern I could not quit figure it out,,but I knew you would make it work,,looking good.

the tires will clear when you turn it lock to lock,,right.
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