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staleg 06-23-2013 07:27 AM

5x120mm wheels on 5x4,75" hub?
 
Any of you using wheels with metric 5x120 mm bolt pattern on 5x4,75" hubs?

RWENUTS 06-23-2013 10:50 AM

Close but no cigar!
5x4.75 equals 5x120.65.
They'll be close to fitting but would you really bet your life on them working at 100kph.

S10xGN 06-23-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWENUTS (Post 1687741)
Close but no cigar!
5x4.75 equals 5x120.65.
They'll be close to fitting but would you really bet your life on them working at 100kph.

Really? You're talking about 0.025" (that's 25 thousands) of an inch. I'd bet the manufacturer's tolerances are looser than that. I had 114.3mm (4.5") wheels on our '04 CTS (which calls for 115mm) from new to trade-in and non hub-centric at that. No vibrations and nothing ever wore or came apart...

Russ

RWENUTS 06-23-2013 04:14 PM

I guess you where lucky!
I just wouldn't recommend it.

Aces'n'8s 07-01-2013 10:35 PM

I wouldn't recommend it either, but I've seen people use bronze bushings to act as sleeves to take up the slack between the stud and wheel mounting hole.

Project89 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

the 3rdgen camaro guys do it all the time with bmw wheels a few of the even autocross the cars and have no issues.

S10xGN 07-02-2013 08:27 AM

Think about this for a minute, the difference is the width of 3 human hairs. Do you really think this matters on wheel fitment?

Russ

Project89 07-02-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S10xGN (Post 1690439)
Think about this for a minute, the difference is the width of 3 human hairs. Do you really think this matters on wheel fitment?

Russ

exactly the machinging of the wheels has more play then that even on factory stuff

joe_padavano 07-02-2013 11:20 AM

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el pollo 07-04-2013 02:27 PM

It will bend the studs just a bit. And studs really don't like that at all. It's like mounting a flat-backed wheel on a hub with tinnerman clips still on. You'll eventually lose one or more studs.

The same goes for 5-114.3 PCD patterns and 5-115 rims. Will it bolt down? Yeah. Will it torque correctly? Nope. Can it fall off? More like will.

S10xGN 07-05-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el pollo (Post 1691111)
It will bend the studs just a bit. And studs really don't like that at all. It's like mounting a flat-backed wheel on a hub with tinnerman clips still on. You'll eventually lose one or more studs.

The same goes for 5-114.3 PCD patterns and 5-115 rims. Will it bolt down? Yeah. Will it torque correctly? Nope. Can it fall off? More like will.

Huh? Bend the studs? Hmmm, mine went on with no bending issues (unless I'm of superman strength). Mine always torqued to 100 ft/lbs. And six years with no problems... OP, it's up to you, is it better to listen to experience or believe internet hype from trolls?

Russ

RWENUTS 07-05-2013 03:44 PM

'Internet trolls' coming from someone trolling. Go figure!!

el pollo 07-05-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S10xGN (Post 1691257)
Huh? Bend the studs? Hmmm, mine went on with no bending issues (unless I'm of superman strength). Mine always torqued to 100 ft/lbs. And six years with no problems... OP, it's up to you, is it better to listen to experience or believe internet hype from trolls?

Russ

If you're calling me a troll, that's pretty pathetic.

As for bending them, yes, they will. I work in the tire industry, and turn roughly 90 cars a day. The company I work for sells about $3.5 billion in tires and wheels. My experience doesn't come from Google. But whatever.

I haven't been on this forum in about a year. Looks like the atmosphere has changed a bit...

S10xGN 07-06-2013 10:04 AM

Look, I'm not trying to be an a-hole here, I ran this same setup for 6 years with zero problems. That is considered "real-world experience" where I come from. In all the tire rotations I did (every 6k miles) I never felt any kind of interference while removing and installing these minutely different-sized wheels, nor was there ever an issue with binding while finger tightening them down flush before torquing them. A lot of people also wail about hub-centric rings, which I never opted for either. So, how strange is it that I broke every rule in your book, but have never had a problem? I'd be curious to know exactly how many of these wheels have fallen off. I've been on this planet 60 years (a rodder for 45) and have never heard of a single instance.

I'm offering OP "staleg" 6 years (75k miles) of real world driving experience from my point of view, but all I see on the flip side is pretty much nothing but suppositions...

Russ

RWENUTS 07-06-2013 10:19 AM

Try this real world experience!
1/4 mile bracket car with 2" studs, 9" rearend and some 5x115 charger wheels mounted up. Right rear wheel comes off at a buck ten, takes out the timing lights. After they inspected the studs and the wheel guess who got the bill!
My opinion is things are machined to match up. Close don't count. You take your chances. You've been lucky. Some haven't.
Rant over.
Now back to your regular programming!


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