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Old 02-24-2015, 05:06 PM
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I decided to cut the patch for the outer half of the wheel house and see how that fit too.

I drew a line and in 60 seconds with the plasma, had the part cut out.





I set that in the quarter and it will need more trimming and fitting, but is very close already.




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That really does look fantastic. I know you are excited to see it coming together. As a matter of fact, I am excited for you. Good job!!!!

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Spent a few hours fitting the outer wheel house and trunk drop. The outer looked fairly close just throwing it in yesterday, but I know better than to think it will line up easily... It was too far forward and it took major "convincing" to get to move 1/2" rearward. I marked where it met the original and then added the 1" of tape to cut off the extra, so I wasn't fighting that too.



I didn't get any pics of the fitting process...

Then I put the skin back on and fitted the trunk drop. I had this fitting good with the original quarter, but of course, it didn't line up with the new one. It took another hour of wrangling, but it does fit pretty nice now and is all prepped and ready to weld on.







After wrestling with the outer house and drop, I was able to get the skin to pull in and align with the forward half of the wheel opening. Hard to see in the pic, but I'm pleased with the final result.

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Man, that's coming along nicely.
Nothing like getting rid of the rust. You're moving along right quick.
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Man, that's coming along nicely.
Nothing like getting rid of the rust. You're moving along right quick.
Thanks !

I basically quit my part-time job. The shop owner keeps putting other projects ahead of the '47 Ford I was working on and expecting me to do them. I told him when I went back in November, I was only there to get the Ford to a better place for the car owner, in case he wanted to get it out of there after 6 years of sitting. If the shop owner decides to get his act together and get me back on the '47, I'll go back and do as much as I can until April 30th. After that I'm gone for good.

That's a good thing for me, as I am making slow, but steady progress on the Chevelle...
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I basically quit my part-time job. The shop owner keeps putting other projects ahead of the '47 Ford I was working on and expecting me to do them. I told him when I went back in November, I was only there to get the Ford to a better place for the car owner, in case he wanted to get it out of there after 6 years of sitting. If the shop owner decides to get his act together and get me back on the '47, I'll go back and do as much as I can until April 30th. After that I'm gone for good.

That's a good thing for me, as I am making slow, but steady progress on the Chevelle...
I was really into what you were getting done on the 47 Ford last winter but it is good you have the time for the Chevelle. At least you have a project that is rewarding even if it is not putting money in your pocket.

Who wants a part time job anyway?

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Part time? Who wants a job??
7 long hard years to go........it's like doing time....
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Part time? Who wants a job??
7 long hard years to go........it's like doing time....
Trust me Pugsy. 7 years is not long. I retired 5 years ago. Seems like 5 weeks. I went from being 52 to almost 70 overnight.

Enjoy today! Every today is a gift, I promise.


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I decided to cut the patch for the outer half of the wheel house and see how that fit too.

I drew a line and in 60 seconds with the plasma, had the part cut out.





I set that in the quarter and it will need more trimming and fitting, but is very close already.



This is a very good subject that newbes often mess up on. When to not put the whole part or patch panel on, and when using the whole thing would be much faster. It's different from part to part and often it's thought the whole thing needs to be used when in actuality only a small part of it is needed.

When I started doing this stuff I was on the ball with not using a whole patch panel, but only the part that I really needed. That was all good, a lot of newbes will use the whole thing and get welds up in warp happy places, that sort of thing. But I was way out of the curve on when to use the whole thing. I got that from the collision side of things. Using the whole part is pretty much a given and that has been great training on when to use that thinking when customizing or restoration work. Where as years ago cutting some panel in half was the norm, not drilling out spot welds and removing the whole thing is miles better.

But again, it's going to be different part to part. Anyone have any ideas on how to put that into some kind of rule?

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Old 03-03-2015, 08:58 PM
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This is a very good subject that newbes often mess up on. When to not put the whole part or patch panel on, and when using the whole thing would be much faster. It's different from part to part and often it's thought the whole thing needs to be used when in actuality only a small part of it is needed.

When I started doing this stuff I was on the ball with not using a whole patch panel, but only the part that I really needed. That was all good, a lot of newbes will use the whole thing and get welds up in warp happy places, that sort of thing. But I was way out of the curve on when to use the whole thing. I got that from the collision side of things. Using the whole part is pretty much a given and that has been great training on when to use that thinking when customizing or restoration work. Where as years ago cutting some panel in half was the norm, not drilling out spot welds and removing the whole thing is miles better.

But again, it's going to be different part to part. Anyone have any ideas on how to put that into some kind of rule?

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I had complete halves and they didn't even fit each other, so I knew it was going to be a fight to begin with. Then there is all the work involved with actually removing the entire wheel house. There is a LOT more to this than it first appears. It was still easier and quicker to get the sections to fit well.

Little update on the progress.

Trunk drop welded on and the welds ground down.





Outer wheel house section ready to weld on.



And done



Final trim of the skin and flanging.







I thought I was ready to install the skin today and was sanding the paint off the rocker below it and found pin holes from rust inside.



Too close to the quarter seam to leave it for later, so I cut it out. It continued under the quarter flange too.



I just happened to have a rocker lay-over repair panel and cut out a repair section and backing plates.















I also made a backer to continue the support up to the top of the skin for welding.





At last, on to final fit and prep for welding the skin.





Round one of tack welding. It was 4 pm and I wasn't in the mood to weld it all today, so I have something to do tomorrow.

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Right on, yeah that's what I mean, sometimes you can do it some times you can't and have to cut the panel up. I guess there is no hard fast rule.

It's looking good!

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Nice work. Weld clean up looks great.
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I've been messing with pushing the wrinkles out from the back, but I have no/very limited access over the wheel well. I used some guide coat to check progress. It's still low in areas but much better than it was. I need to come up with an attachment for my port-a-power to get in the tight area.





Since I wasn't coming up with a clever way to push the quarter wrinkles out, I moved on to the tail panel. I have an AMD that initially looked very accurate. I wish I had inspected it closer before I removed the original. The seal channel on the repro isn't even close. Way to shallow and undefined to fit with the quarter panel. I was pretty disgusted with that and ordered an original cut-off out of CA.







So here it sits, waiting for a part and inspiration...

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The quarter looks much better! I know you are feeling better about that.

Got my fingers crossed that the cut off tail panel is good when it arrives.

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Yep reproduction parts are "similar" to the originals.

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