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Old 10-06-2019, 08:36 PM
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74 Nova w/ 383 stroker

Hey folks, I found this video some months ago and I'm asking if you could watch the part where he goes over the car and points things out.
The set up of this car, specifically what's under the hood (no hood on this one) is what I would like to do. Bare bones, make it roar..
Looking for brands, models of radiator with/ without electric fan, electric water pump or not, distributor and coil, etc.
I really want to use this set up, put in only what I need and need ideas on what brands to look at.
Currently the 383 is on a stand and waiting for me to give it some attention this winter. Hopefully come spring or summer it'll be on the road.
Thanks for your help.

https://youtu.be/Ld7ASyKhKn0

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Radiator is just a generic aluminum, sold by width needed in just about ever circle track catalog on the planet. Champion, northern, etc. the one in the video is not a direct fit simple bolt in, it will take a slight bit og fab work to make mounts for it. You can get direct fit in aluminum, costs 3-4 times as much.
Distributor and coil are Pro-Comp, which is now named SpeedMaster….a brand not known for quality especially in ignition parts....I'd suggest you look at Daytona Sensors CD-1 system with a Accel BluePrint HEi distributor triggering it.
Water pump appears to be "generic', could be ProForm. If you want better there is Meziere, CVR, and Moroso.

Fan appears to just be a aftermarket, no clue who makes it. Maradyne is one of the best, then Derale, then it gets pretty generic after that, ProForm, Summit Racing house brand, Jegs house brand, etc.

He has got the alternator mounted on pre-1970 brackets, I don't know why...1974 stock mounts it in front of passenger side head on a much sturdier mounting bracket. You'll need an aftermarket bracket to mount an alternator when using an electric pump, as the factory bracket bolts to bosses on the stock mechanical pump.
Looks like just common 1-5/8" headers....if you've got a hot 383 then 1-3/4" would be a better choice. You can find some stainless sets on Ebay for good price if you look...made offshore but good quality, often cheaper even than plain regular mild steel made here in the USA.

Start making parts choices, then come back and ask about a review of you choices before you buy...you'll get better feedback than when you just ask a generic "what do I use" question. Prevents you from buying crap, THEN asking about it and finding out you made a poor choice.
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Thanks for the info. This Nova was my stepsons. He built the 383 when he was 15. After the Army he bought the car from his mother who bought it from her cousin. He dropped the 383 in it and soon after towed it out to Phoenix Arizona where he was going to school. He was killed in a motorcycle accident. (Please watch for motorcycles).
Tomorrow marks 5 years now.
We drove it back from Phoenix and soon after her younger son decided to tear it apart, against her wishes. Then he walked away from it. Nice.
I've only started doing my repairs and such to my vehicles over the last 10 years. So I have this car to put back together for Mom. Engine was disconnected totally. All accessories removed. Exhaust cut up in pieces and trashed. No brakes.
All that was wrong with it before he destroyed it was an ignition issue which he and a buddy put in a push button start and laid the wiring across the back of the block. They must have reversed the fan direction because it would overheat within 4 miles. The last 4 mile trip melted the ignition wires.
Nathan (the son who built it it) had a moroso stroker oil pan on it and must have bottomed out somewhere along the line. The dent caused low oil pressure so I got a new one and will be putting it on.
Before we bought the house we're in now, I put the motor on a stand, replaced the timing belt cover, head gaskets and cleaned and painted the vortek heads.
I told the wife this winter I'm going to get back at it between painting and other renovations I'm working on with the house. It's been sitting for 4 years now.
Thanks a lot for your input. I have a long road ahead of me. All the bolts to everything need to be found if they are even around. The younger boy really didn't care. He had a to do list on the wall of the garage he rented. After it was torn to pieces he wrote "Done". Wow. Needless to say he has issues.
I'll get back to you in what parts I'm looking at soon.
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Replace the rubber fuel line with stock steel line or steel braided line, properly supported and clamped. That rubber line flyin' in the breeze is a disaster in the making. You're just asking for a fire. Replace the mechanical throttle linkage with a cable system and two good springs. What you have on there now is subject to fail at any moment, jamming the throttle wide open. Trust me, I'm a retired drag strip technical inspector and have seen this happen. The stock system, when properly installed and lubricated occasionally, is bulletproof. Install a cable or chain on the driver's side only, connected from the head or block to the chassis of the car to prevent the motor from rocking over on its mounts and breaking the bellhousing. When you get the whole thing back to a driving condition, inspect the electrical system for including a neutral safety switch so that the motor will not start with the transmission in gear. Lots of times when a fellow changes to a floor shift, this switch is not included in the mix.
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Replace the rubber fuel line with stock steel line or steel braided line, properly supported and clamped. That rubber line flyin' in the breeze is a disaster in the making. You're just asking for a fire. Replace the mechanical throttle linkage with a cable system and two good springs. What you have on there now is subject to fail at any moment, jamming the throttle wide open. Trust me, I'm a retired drag strip technical inspector and have seen this happen. The stock system, when properly installed and lubricated occasionally, is bulletproof.
Thank you. I'll add those to the list.
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Our intention is for the car to be a weekend cruiser with occasional whoop *** for whomever asks for it. So we won't be doing any drag strips or anything.
You mentioned the bell housing. When the younger boy lifted the engine out he forgot one bolt attaching it to the tranny breaking that piece off the housing. I've gotten a couple opinions that it'll still be okay with 4 bolts rather than 5?
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This is what the motor looked like prior to being taken apart...
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This is a recent pic....
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This is a recent pic....

WOW front wheel drive, interesting ?

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Lol. Nah, the position of the hoist hook with the position of the attachment on the intake turned it. I'll have to come from the side when I drop it back in.
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Your hook needs a weight-rated swivel between it and the boom.

Or, in a pinch, a short piece of chain you can put through the hole in the lift plate and make a loop with it, then into the hook.

Transmission case being okay depends on what hole was broken....if it is one that includes the dowel pin alignment hole on each side then you will have a problem. Only ones that might be okay are at 10:00 and 2:00 o'clock roughly.

If you've got the piece that broke out, it could be TIG welded back in for a better fix.
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Looking at the bell housing from the front it's the last one on the passenger side. I doubt the boy kept it but once I get the garage cleaned up and ready to focus on just the car and all the miscellaneous parts that were stuffed in the trunk and in boxes or tool boxes I might find it.
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Lol. Nah, the position of the hoist hook with the position of the attachment on the intake turned it. I'll have to come from the side when I drop it back in.

Stupid internet humor, could not resist,

383 + Nova ...you will love that


electric water pump or not, /stick with a fail safe mechanical pump

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I was leaning towards mechanical water pump anyway. That's what the boy had on it originally and we want to keep it as he had it with a few tweaks here and there.
Here is the only YouTube video Nathan posted that I could find just after he installed the TH400...
Oh, and today marks 5 years since he left us.

https://youtu.be/Z4U8gxP4U9I
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