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Old 06-02-2007, 07:10 AM
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$98 Roller Paint Job in Hot Rod

This month's Hot Rod (July 2007) has an article on painting a car for $98 with a roller. It's pretty much as noted in the link we had here at HR.Com for the Rustolleum/Roller painting technique. My guess is once the idea gets widespread coverage other rodders will improve even more on the process and we might actually have a viable, backyard alternative for laying down a decent paint job on our cars.

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I'm looking forward to CBOY trying this on one of his homebuilt hot-rods. If it works maybe I'll let him show me how its done on my car. This could be a great option for some of us without the skill and knowledge to spray-paint our cars.

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Here's the thread here roller painting was discussed on HR.Com and the first post also contains a link to a HUGH discussion (along with pics and technique) over at mopars.com. Unfortunately, Hot Rod probably won't post this up on their web site for a couple more months so if you want to see their article you'll have to get a copy of the magazine. The mopar link is great...but quite long if you wade through the whole thing.

our thread: https://www.hotrodders.com/forum/odd-...t=paint+roller

the mopar thread: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1
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i painted my demolition derby car baby blue with interior house paint and a roller. it rained during the derby and started washing off on people who touched it. so i don't think water based paint is a viable option.
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I spray painted Rustoleum on a 63 Chevy Truck. I thinned it pout a lot with Mineral Spirits and it went on pretty well.. Somebody said that it's not proof against gasoline which will stain it near the gas filler cap. But it was shiny and the same color for a while any way. I sold it, so dont know how long it lasted.

I used a different Enamel on another truck, and it faded pretty bad in a year or so. But if you think it enough it sprays pretty good, and no reason a roller wont work either.
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This might generate a little controversy here, but painting with a brush or roller will work with some products that flow out well. POR-15 for example, if applied as per the directions, lays down a very acceptable finish - I can't tell it is brushed on. Now I'm not recommending the product for body work, but the technology / chemistry which makes the product work is very good and can perhaps be applied to more acceptable finish paints and products.
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The boat guys commonly use a method called rolling and tipping which means following the roller with a brush to flow the paint out. The results often match a spray job.
This article is rather long winded but has good info http://www.yachtpaint.com/holding_pa...df/leaflet.pdf

From one of the recognized boat work experts.
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/TipRollingTipping.htm

Normally it takes two people working closely together when they do a boat.
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over on Stovebolt Blue 50 is using Interlux Brightside boat paint & it seems to be going on fairly well...joe
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interesting.
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I seem to remember one of the hot rod shows. trucks I think showing a roll on primer. Thought that was a good one, talk about high build, anyway not bad considering that the primer was to be later blocked out, as to a finished paint job , well I can only say looking at some of the houses some proudly point out that they have painted leaves me just a little skeptical... Some have way to much self esteem these days
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On one of my guitar making lists i said that some people might think that a crummy finish done by their own hands would be preferable to a perfect finish done by a professional. It all depends on application. If you view paint as a method of keeping metal from rusting, you have one criteria. If you view it as a way to impress people, you have another.

I assume that finish on cars, like guitars, is probably 50% of the total cost, and that if you want a show vehicle, then perfection is never quite good enough.

And perfection is very expensive. Keeping metal from rusting is cheap. Dealer's choice.
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A friend of mine shot his truck with Rustoleum, did it in two tone red and black then put a budget auto parts urethane clear over is with some PPG prizmatique. It actually didn't look half bad for the money he had invested but I seen it a few weeks ago and the clear is coming off in sheets and the paint is acutally deteriorating under the clear. As a kid I painted a trailer truck box 27 years ago with Impervo oil based exterior house paint, used mineral spirits and a wagner and believe it or not although it is now oxidized there hasn't been any adhesion problems but it did look like house paint.....

Yeah, you can spray oil based enamels on your ride but don't think you'll get anywhere near the quality level job of a real automotive finish.
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A friend of mine shot his truck with Rustoleum, did it in two tone red and black then put a budget auto parts urethane clear over is with some PPG prizmatique. It actually didn't look half bad for the money he had invested but I seen it a few weeks ago and the clear is coming off in sheets and the paint is acutally deteriorating under the clear.

Yeah, you can spray oil based enamels on your ride but don't think you'll get anywhere near the quality level job of a real automotive finish.
it's all in the preparation..............

PLUS this is NOT oil based paint, IF you would of read the posts you have seen that it is either Tremclad/Rustoleum enamel paint and Blue 50 is using boat topside polyurethane which neither is an oil based paint....joe
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the paint Blue 50 is using is top of the line boat paint that is made to be rolled on with the method I mentioned earlier. Also it isn't cheap paint starting about 20 bucks a quart.

Many years ago Laddie Segrest in Waco, Tx painted his 32 Ford coupe with Gibsons True black Lacquer from the Gibsons department store. From his stories about it he carried the paint out of the store by the case. He didn't save any actual money but was able to paint the car at home w/o a paint gun or compressor. Painting and color sanding as one would do on a regular black lacquer paint job at the time he achieved a finish that won several awards and held up for years.

In the post Easyrider movie chopper building frenzie in that area, a lot of the guys were having custom mixed paint put in spray cans at one of the paint stores in Waco and getting great results. Bit it didn't take a lot of paint to do a chopper tank and rear fender.

It all comes down to the concept that if you have the want to and the patience, you can probably figure out a way to achieve presentable results for a low buck outlay.
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I saw a purple street rod in a new magazine that had been painted with Krylon Purple... It was good enough to be in a show.. Lot of sanding..

Trick from the model car days; If you put the spray cans in warm water, about 100 degrees, the paint will flow a lot better, and the pressure of the propellant will be a little higher.
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