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Old 05-12-2020, 04:09 PM
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Any fellow Washingtonians here that can share any "old car title" wisdom with me?

I have no idea where to ask this, so i'm throwing it here. Good buddy passed away in January. We've been helping his widow sort out his HUGE pile of stuff and his collection of cars. So much stuff. One of the things on the property is a '46 truck. I'm going to take it home but I'm stuck. The title was cut in 1971 and is the name of a guy that's been dead for 5 years. And when he died he had no family. His second-cousins-former-roomates-livein-butler-exwife or something came down from Canada as the appointed executor of the estate. She cleaned everything up, sold the house, and vanished. We don't know who she was or how to get ahold of her. Folks around at the time said she didnt even talk to anyone or return calls so I highly doubt I will ever hear from her again.
So am I boned here? Is 1946 old enough to play title games with? I'm loathe to try to forge signatures and make it go away. Anyone have any ideas what I can do?

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Lien,, get the details from DMV web site

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Yeah I looked into the lien option. It requires a lot of footwork to contact the legal registered owner and/or there estate with brings me back to the first problem. No one knows who that is or how to get a hold of them.
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Old 05-12-2020, 09:11 PM
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I'm in Oregon. That doesn't seem right.

Now I'm curious, I'm going to make a few calls....
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court records.

If some one was the executor of the estate there should be some court records. also you could do a real estate title search thru a title company, find some names. and search the family of the Dmv name on the title. We bought couple trucks from a widow that shed did not have titles for, and got the DMV forms for no title and had a sherif deputy inspect vin number, the widow signed them and we got clear titles
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If some one was the executor of the estate there should be some court records. also you could do a real estate title search thru a title company, find some names. and search the family of the Dmv name on the title. We bought couple trucks from a widow that shed did not have titles for, and got the DMV forms for no title and had a sherif deputy inspect vin number, the widow signed them and we got clear titles
Yeah that would be really easy to do here as well if we had anyone attached to the estate that could sign something. As it is, we have no one.
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I read Washington DMV re your dilemma.

Have you called the DMV and told them that you have this truck that was gifted or sold to you and the executor has not responded to you and the same for others ?? Might be worth a conversation. IE made the deal and left no where to be found..

Many times there's other rules, laws etc that aren't provided on a web page.

I've seen this before. But In Oregon it's different rules and laws..

good luck.

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I have played the Worshington DMV game and won a few and lost a few. To be simple there are a lot hoops to go through and several ways to accomplish that.

I bought a truck years ago from an asphalt paving company that was being liquidated. I had to put up a ownership bond and hold the vehicle for 2 years without selling it. In the end DMV found a lost lienholder on the truck and it was a bank in Oregon. That voided the bond and I was not allowed to sell or license the rig so I tore it apart and sold it piecemeal. The bonded title I was trying to get a mechanics lien through was a lot of legwork and forms and registered letters and waiting a lot all was for naught! I swore I would never touch a vehicle again without a clear title and to this day I have walked away from many "Deals" due to paperwork problems.

There are several ways to clear the title but all of them require you the buyer to do a lot of legwork. DMV will not take anyone's word about anything unless you have signed and notarized paper trail. So if your serious better put the walking shoes on and make sure there is ink in the pen. good luck..
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There are several states where establishing title is a LOT easier. Might be worthwhile to look into getting a title from, for example, South Dakota, and thus be able to transfer it to yourself in Washington?

No idea how feasible this is, but there are several non-title states where you can establish legal ownership.
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lein sale company.

When I was in California I had a friend that worked for a used car dealer. there were companies that did the lein sale for a bout $ 100 in the 1990's. I bought a Mustang 5.0 and the. The second party back decided that he sold the car too cheap to one person back and demanded another $ 800 to sign the paperwork . the process was to pay $ 5 and get the name and address of the last legal owner. send them a registered receipt requested letter and state the facts why you need the clear title. INSERT one extra step since we are dealing with a scumbag.. per the friendly law officer. he had out standing warrants, First send a registered receipt requested letter and state that you are trying to find any relatives of joe blow with the scum bag's last name to see if they are entitled to any inheritance money. Scumbag normally does not update his driver;'s lic or registration info. The registered letter asking about relation ship normally comes back unopened. Then send the DMV forms in the letter to the address and it will come back unopened. DO NOT OPEN THE RETURNED LETTER.you can then take that to the
DMV and start the lein process. scum bag is no where to be found per dmv records. then you can have your lein sale.

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There are several states where establishing title is a LOT easier. Might be worthwhile to look into getting a title from, for example, South Dakota, and thus be able to transfer it to yourself in Washington?

No idea how feasible this is, but there are several non-title states where you can establish legal ownership.
u have an exc point.. don't quote me but I think Pa and NY don't have titles for that yr.. if u know someone there see what they can do.. maybe...
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Just buy a title and be done with it. A one time thing is no big issue and title sellers are everywhere. Coddington used to do it all the time but he bought a lot of them and got caught.
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Just buy a title and be done with it. A one time thing is no big issue and title sellers are everywhere. Coddington used to do it all the time but he bought a lot of them and got caught.
I was wondering about this option. How do you go about doing that? I know that selling titles is banned on Ebay. Are there places to go online to buy ones?
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I have delt with this once in michigan, on a motorcycle. I got a form from DMV, that allowed a cop to come check the vin numbers, he then ran it thru data base, if it comes up clean he signs off and DMV will issue new title.
One of the things the cop will ask is the history and how you got truck and if you knew who last owner was, big thing is cop will be asking questions more or less to size you up and the story.
In fact cop asked me why, I was asking cops to fill out form etc, my direct statement was, "because if comes back stolen, I was going help them load it on the truck to haul it away" and wanted to make sure it was clean before I worked on it.

A quick thought go to cop shop and talk to person at window. Play them straight and they might know a way to help.
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I was wondering about this option. How do you go about doing that? I know that selling titles is banned on Ebay. Are there places to go online to buy ones?

Used to be sellers in Hemmings, haven't looked at a copy in a while but you may need to read between the lines a bit too when looking for ads.
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