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Old 01-15-2016, 01:21 PM
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The autodark welding helmet that changes it all for me.

I have tried many of these helmets, I just didn't like them. I use a chin operated one from Accu-strike and have for years, and love it.

I don't have one here at the shop being I am not welding every day. I have been converting the parts carts we have and have borrowed helmets from a number of guys in the shop, they are all decent but all start out way too dark, WAY too dark for these old eyes.

Today I went to my bosses box (which is the one I should be using anyway and will from now on) and got his Miller "Pro-Hobby" helmet. HOLY CRAP what a difference! It's WAY lighter, we are talking like a #2 shade! It makes all the difference in the world on starting that weld.

If you are going to get an autodark I highly recommend this one.

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Price makes a big difference in auto darkening helmets. FWIW, The solar powered cheapos are adjustable and do a lot better if you put them in direct sunlight for a few minutes before you start.
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Brian, I just checked my Jackson Nex Gen helmet and the range of shades goes from 9 to 13. I noticed I had it set a 9, the lightest. Is there a lighter setting on the helmet you show?
Of course my main problem while welding has to do with being far sighted. While doing close welding I invariably wind up looking out the top of my glasses through the distance range where close work becomes blurry, while I really need to be looking through the bottom of the lens (the corrected area) in order to see what I'm doing. I've tried a corrective lens in the helmet so I don't have to wear glasses at all, which helps with the close work, but then when I lift the helmet I can't see ****. Have you figured a way to deal with this?

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Alan, I think the setting you are describing is the dark setting, not the before it turns dark setting. I don't know if any have that. This helmet has no settings what so ever, not even an on off switch. Just put it in the sun for 20 minutes and start welding.

As far as glasses, honestly I fight with it all the time. What seems to work the best is giving up and wearing my bi-focals and having a large viewing area. For gas welding I use one of these "Bionic" shields.



That sucker is AWESOME for me.

On the MIG, I have been using one of these for years, I like them alot. It's a chin operated lens. The good part is it's large, so you have a lot more area to move your head around to accommodate glasses and be able to see clearly.



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My helmet that I got from a welding store sort of quit working and called the company. Learned a lot from them. FWIW I'll pass it on. First, I had not used the helmet for some time and they said the embedded battery went to the sleep mode. I told them I put it in the sun to "recharge" it but they said that will not work. Seems the light band from the sun is not what triggers the auto dark feature but an arc will. He told me to look slightly away when you first strike the arc and it will wake and start the recharge feature (only after it went to the sleep mode). I tried it and, yes, it worked just like he said. As far as seeing real good during welding I use a cheap pair of reading glasses that are large enough to see up and down with.
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Price makes a big difference in auto darkening helmets. FWIW, The solar powered cheapos are adjustable and do a lot better if you put them in direct sunlight for a few minutes before you start.
This one was pretty cheap at about $75.

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My helmet that I got from a welding store sort of quit working and called the company. Learned a lot from them. FWIW I'll pass it on. First, I had not used the helmet for some time and they said the embedded battery went to the sleep mode. I told them I put it in the sun to "recharge" it but they said that will not work. Seems the light band from the sun is not what triggers the auto dark feature but an arc will. He told me to look slightly away when you first strike the arc and it will wake and start the recharge feature (only after it went to the sleep mode). I tried it and, yes, it worked just like he said. As far as seeing real good during welding I use a cheap pair of reading glasses that are large enough to see up and down with.
Very interesting. I tried one in the shop after "charging" it in the sun and it didn't work. After it "saw" the arc I should have put it back out in the sun to charge?

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What do you mean by chin operated?
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Brian, From what they said (as I remember it) the helmet operates off a blue color of the spectrum which is intense with an arc but not with sunlight so setting the helmet outside is not going to do anything. Just the act of welding will be enough to charge the battery. I also noticed during an eclipse the auto dark feature would not work 100% of the time and would flip to light/dark. Again they said it was because the sensor is not getting the correct intensity of the right color band to trigger the dark feature. During normal welding the auto dark feature does work fine.
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What do you mean by chin operated?
I bought my first one about 20 years ago and loved it. I am on my second though the first one still really works fine. I got another to have one at work and one at home.

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This one was pretty cheap at about $75.

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Cheap is relative. The one I've used for about 7 or 8 years was half that price. Obviously, I was wrong about the "solar powered cheapos" and their batteries. My statement was based on personal experience only and that was a mistake.
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That looks like a nice helmet, I may get one myself. The prices have dropped a lot over the years, but always get the best helmet possible, how much are your eyes worth to you?
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I have a Jackson Nitro. They don't make them anymore, but I still wanted to prep it up for the arrival of my Tig welder, so I got a lens kit for it and this magnifying lens for the inside. THIS I recommend to anyone. It makes such a difference. Now anytime I get a helmet I will get the lens kit and one of these magnifying lens. It makes such a difference, just don't look thru it and start turning your head or look long distance, you will get dizzy.

Anywho, the auto darkening element is cracked so instead of paying $140 just for the lens I will get a cheap version that's 110mmx90mm and roll with that. Your eyes will tell you you right away how good it is. It's worth a try.

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Great post, Martin. Have you tried a head light on your helmet? Get the magnifier and a light. You'll be set, and of course the helmet of your choice. Very important to be able to see. Lame helmets make it a lot harder. Great topic.
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i can see the chin operated helmet working if all you do is tack welds
it would suck for pipe welding, your helmet (or ear) would fill up with drool

i've been using a $49 harbor fright autodark hood for years, best deal on the web
i weld at #9 setting just so i can see where i'm welding
i don't weld as much as i use to, if i know ahead of time i lay it out in the sun
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