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matt167 12-23-2017 06:10 PM

Buy T bucket with or without floor?
 
I'm waiting on getting the very last of the funds together to get my T bucket kit shipped. Spirit offered me a body that had a slight blemish and no floor for $325 which is about 1/2 of the cost of a body with a floor installed. I took that body since I'm on a budget.. I know that I can call them and have them stick a floor in it for a cost, but their floors are 'glass with a Nida core or similar reinforcement. I know the tried and true is a plywood encapsulation. My only concern is fitting the body where it needs to go on the frame, since Spirit pre drills the holes for their body mount tabs when you buy a floor..

Should I have them put a floor in?

39 master 12-23-2017 07:46 PM

Floor
 
My vote is for you to do it yourself. Set it on the frame where you want it, do some glassing and then you can say " I built this". You may want to change the attitude from "factory" anyway.

BadWally 12-23-2017 11:32 PM

T bucket
 
Well, to begin you have to ask two questions? How is your experience at fiberglass work and how are your wood working skills. I would always buy a T bucket body with floor installed. It is so much easier to spend the extra cash and get a body with the floor. About 15 years ago, I researched this and purchased a CCR body with floor. Glad I did. It was so strong and took minimal sanding to prep for paint. It was about three times the cost of a cheaper body but it was well worth it in the long run. I was impressed how heavy and strong the body was. Made the finished project soooo much nicer.

BillPac 12-24-2017 06:06 AM

It depends . . .
 
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Since you already have the body without floor, do it yourself. I also bought a floorless Spirit body, and since I wanted to channel it about 5", I set it on the frame rails at the appropriate height, then made a cardboard template as a pattern for my 5/8" plywood. Came out nice, I think.

matt167 12-24-2017 06:36 AM

Yup, looks like it came out very nice. One question, does the Spirit body just 'drop on' at 3" channel? I have not figured out if there is anything to do at the rear, but I know the front is cut for 3"

I have a lot of fiberglass supplies left from a boat restore. Lots of CSM and that other stuff that is CSM and cloth stitched together. cannot think of the name. I planned on putting a layer of CSM into the back wall at the very least, probably the cloth combo stuff simply because I have it.

Otherwise, I pretty much want to build this out as much 'kit' as possible. Simply because this is the first one and doing that eliminates fabrication issues. I won't be running their seat insert since the finished interior is spartan and still looks like a butt cheek. I like how the steering column is supposed to attach right to the Vega box without linkage

delawarebill 12-24-2017 07:11 AM

bucket floors
 
i also did my own when i built it. not a big deal. use 3/4 plywood and just lay on frame. now put body on the ply and draw it out to cut. u will want to drop it on from the inside so it'll sit against the glass body. drill your own holes in frame or weld on "L" brackets to frame and threw bolt it. i also used two 1/2" plywoods glued together and glued to back side of fire wall. that gives u enough thickness to attach fuse panel and other stuff. don't put the fuse panel under seat.. keep thinking rain.. i also used the 10 gal gas tk and slide to drivers side to allow room for battery. tight but worked well. i used the 8" rear from a '67 mustang and perfect fit and ran 20" wide tires. are u going to do your own wiring too?? they may be making smaller fuse panels now but in past the smallest was like 10 or 12 fuses... way to many, and the wiring harness was tooooo pricey for what a bucket uses. i did my own too.

BillPac 12-24-2017 07:29 AM

Channel . . .
 
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Originally Posted by matt167 (Post 4394818)
Yup, looks like it came out very nice. One question, does the Spirit body just 'drop on' at 3" channel? I have not figured out if there is anything to do at the rear, but I know the front is cut for 3"

I had to cut additional 'relief' areas to allow the body to drop down more front and rear, but that's just because I wanted a really low stance. The down side of that is there is less room in the interior, but it suits me. I used sportsman fiberglass bucket seats mounted on the floor.

matt167 12-24-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by delawarebill (Post 4394826)
i also did my own when i built it. not a big deal. use 3/4 plywood and just lay on frame. now put body on the ply and draw it out to cut. u will want to drop it on from the inside so it'll sit against the glass body. drill your own holes in frame or weld on "L" brackets to frame and threw bolt it. i also used two 1/2" plywoods glued together and glued to back side of fire wall. that gives u enough thickness to attach fuse panel and other stuff. don't put the fuse panel under seat.. keep thinking rain.. i also used the 10 gal gas tk and slide to drivers side to allow room for battery. tight but worked well. i used the 8" rear from a '67 mustang and perfect fit and ran 20" wide tires. are u going to do your own wiring too?? they may be making smaller fuse panels now but in past the smallest was like 10 or 12 fuses... way to many, and the wiring harness was tooooo pricey for what a bucket uses. i did my own too.

The Spirit frame comes with body mounts attached. Basically L brackets so all I have to do is correctly locate the body and drill holes up through the floor

For wiring I'll probably get something like this. Cheap and simple 8 circuit. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-8-CIRCU...4383.l4275.c10

timothale 12-24-2017 09:33 AM

installing a floor
 
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it was easy to get the body where I wanted it then make cardboard pattern, cut the wood with out the body easier to move it. 2 glass body buckets and then the real steel body I found in 1951, still in the barn and needs some upgrades, my son said he will do with a grandson

NEW INTERIORS 12-24-2017 01:47 PM

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I would buy it without if you know how to do glass work.. On my thread on getting rid of the ugly here on hotrodders I show how I re glassed a new floor because it was very bad.. Here's a few pictures.. Plus you can Channel it over the frame if you want too..maybe this can give you some idea's..

https://www.hotrodders.com/forum/atta...1&d=1514144527

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NEW INTERIORS 12-24-2017 01:48 PM

just remember the more you channel it the higher up you sit in the bucket..

matt167 12-24-2017 02:03 PM

Spirit bodies are notched for a 3" channel. I don't want to go more than that. I prefer to ride 'in' cars, not 'on' them..

Looks like I'll keep it without floor and just run some plywood/ glass.

BillPac 12-24-2017 09:13 PM

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I prefer to ride 'in' cars, not 'on' them..


Me, too . . . !

delawarebill 12-25-2017 08:15 AM

bucket build
 
with seating. don't recall exactly the measurements... but i had the front maybe 6" tall and contoured down to like 2" in the rear. gave a bucket seat feel and had some room under for a few tools and reg/insurance. with brakes i put the m/c under the seat attached to frame. it's hidden and easy to get to for filling. just need to lengthen push rod. another thing i did was add blinker lites. not used with brake lites but separate. way easier to wire up. too bad u don't like closer, talked to my brother last nite and he's going to scrap a wrecked '67 falcon.. that 8" rear would be perfect fit.

matt167 12-25-2017 08:34 AM

That kinda sucks, I used to have a '67 Falcon and have on- off looked for another '66-'69. As for the rear, Spirit is providing a GM 10 bolt from an S10 that is set up to the frame. It's not great but it'll work. They also put the M/C in the seat area

As for seat, I'm thinking the Corbeau 42" Baja seat is almost perfect. Just have to have it re covered in something nicer. https://corbeau.com/42-baja-bench.html


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