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What ever route you go please don't make the mistake like I did many years ago and that is put a bunch of stuff together and not have matching parts that go with each other. It will leave you unhappy and many dollars in the hole. Trust me I have been there and I learned the lesson's the hard way. I now have two running trucks with two great motors and I can drive them and am happy with how they perform and run. Remember to keep it simple.
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hey the link posted for a facebook page feel free to go there & like it thanks
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Ive built a couple 283s, 307s and SJ 327, along with a really uhm 'thrifty' 305 build and a 383 stroker that I sold from my 71 camaro. I like building the small stuff, its personally satisfying to build something different and have it perform well. However, Im also an idiot who likes taking the road less traveled for MYSELF. 99% of the people who see it will think its a 350. Most everyone will say you should built something else. However, there was a time and place where the 283 was in trucks for a very long time and they were tough as nails. Do what you want, just make sure, if you need more torque, you can afford to build another motor. And, theres nothing wrong with nostalgia for nostalgias sake, as long as you keep price in context.
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Ive built a couple 283s, 307s and SJ 327, along with a really uhm 'thrifty' 305 build and a 383 stroker that I sold from my 71 camaro. I like building the small stuff, its personally satisfying to build something different and have it perform well. However, Im also an idiot who likes taking the road less traveled for MYSELF. 99% of the people who see it will think its a 350. Most everyone will say you should built something else. However, there was a time and place where the 283 was in trucks for a very long time and they were tough as nails. Do what you want, just make sure, if you need more torque, you can afford to build another motor. And, theres nothing wrong with nostalgia for nostalgias sake, as long as you keep price in context.
thanks bud yea i wasnt really planning on keeping the motor for long gonna try & get an ls1 & alot more thought the 283 since i have pretty much all i need would be a neat motor to put in the most id ever tow is about 5-600 pounds of mowers & the desktop dyno ive got show with the 305 heads about 210hp & about 260 on torque which is alot more than the wore out 4cylinder thats in it 7 that was with stock exhaust & cam with headers & next up cam it pushed it up to about 240hp & really brought up torque to about 300 not that thats right just what it said it would be never know though but thank you very much for the advice
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I think if he gets a good solid rebuild on it & can get some halfway decent heads,the 283 should perform pretty good in an S10.The trucks & cars they originally came from were a lot heavier & GM kept it in the line for 10 yrs.I think the original stock heads(not the PowerPak) had like 140cc runners,so,it won't take a lot to improve on that.With a good solid rebuild,maybe a set of HO heads,4 bbl,& good exhaust,that lil S10 should be peppy & not too bad on gas.
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I think if he gets a good solid rebuild on it & can get some halfway decent heads,the 283 should perform pretty good in an S10.The trucks & cars they originally came from were a lot heavier & GM kept it in the line for 10 yrs.I think the original stock heads(not the PowerPak) had like 140cc runners,so,it won't take a lot to improve on that.With a good solid rebuild,maybe a set of HO heads,4 bbl,& good exhaust,that lil S10 should be peppy & not too bad on gas.
if it be peppy & decent on gas id be ecstatic like u said that s10 is alot lighter than what that motor was in came an a impala so definatley shaedding some weight
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Speaking heads.Did you ever get an inventory & ID the 305 heads that you have onhand? The #'s from your DD are prolly not too far off.That intake you have & the available heads you have listed so far may knock it down some from that.
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Speaking heads.Did you ever get an inventory & ID the 305 heads that you have onhand? The #'s from your DD are prolly not too far off.That intake you have & the available heads you have listed so far may knock it down some from that.
i got most of them i'll put em all on here later thanks
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i got most of them i'll put em all on here later thanks
OK.You mite also wanna talk to Eric32 & get some advise on the swap itself.I know there some things like the starter & type of headers specic to the S10 V8 swap.He has 2,so,he prolly won't mind sharing some of the issues he had & how he dealt with it.
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I think if he gets a good solid rebuild on it & can get some halfway decent heads,the 283 should perform pretty good in an S10.The trucks & cars they originally came from were a lot heavier & GM kept it in the line for 10 yrs.I think the original stock heads(not the PowerPak) had like 140cc runners,so,it won't take a lot to improve on that.With a good solid rebuild,maybe a set of HO heads,4 bbl,& good exhaust,that lil S10 should be peppy & not too bad on gas.
Just did some readin on the 283 heads & I was wrong.The powerpaks were the 140cc.The stockers were like 120cc.The powerpaks,also like the doublehumps,don't have accessory holes. The 305 heads will @ least offer you mounting holes & the pre 87 heads will still have perimeter bolt V/C as the 283 did,if that even matters to ya.1 of the casting #'s you posted yesterday was wrong.I think it ended in 810.If by chance the actual # was 801,they may be some OK heads for ya.
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Just did some readin on the 283 heads & I was wrong.The powerpaks were the 140cc.The stockers were like 120cc.The powerpaks,also like the doublehumps,don't have accessory holes. The 305 heads will @ least offer you mounting holes & the pre 87 heads will still have perimeter bolt V/C as the 283 did,if that even matters to ya.1 of the casting #'s you posted yesterday was wrong.I think it ended in 810.If by chance the actual # was 801,they may be some OK heads for ya.
i got some more #'s i look them up & post all of them for in just alil bit & yea i'd atleast like to mounting holes the truck had ac would like to attempt to keep it if its not possible thats fine would like to try
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also this is weird to me it dosent have a radio or the lighter just has the outline for them but has air conditioning odd
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Since you're not looking to set low ET at the track, then the 283 will be more than adequate for daily transportation. I'm running an original bore 1961 283 bottom end with the 305 HO 416 heads. Camshaft is a Summit 1102. 204/214 @ .050. Street Dominator intake with a Q jet. A square bore dual plane and Holley 600 would work as well, but I think the Q jet will get the better mileage. Exhaust manifold/headers are late 80's? Corvette tubular manifolds. Trans is S10 T5 with a 3.42 rear gear and a 27 inch tire. Power with this setup is good for a cruiser or light hauling. No problem maintaining 80 MPH + on the highway. Idle is around 700 RPM. Vacuum is good for power brakes. As far as keeping the AC, the 305 heads will allow you to use a late 90's serpentine belt system, or the V belts from the early/mid 80's engines.
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Since you're not looking to set low ET at the track, then the 283 will be more than adequate for daily transportation. I'm running an original bore 1961 283 bottom end with the 305 HO 416 heads. Camshaft is a Summit 1102. 204/214 @ .050. Street Dominator intake with a Q jet. A square bore dual plane and Holley 600 would work as well, but I think the Q jet will get the better mileage. Exhaust manifold/headers are late 80's? Corvette tubular manifolds. Trans is S10 T5 with a 3.42 rear gear and a 27 inch tire. Power with this setup is good for a cruiser or light hauling. No problem maintaining 80 MPH + on the highway. Idle is around 700 RPM. Vacuum is good for power brakes. As far as keeping the AC, the 305 heads will allow you to use a late 90's serpentine belt system, or the V belts from the early/mid 80's engines.
cal thank you very much bud i dont now if theyll fit the s10 ill ask eric since hes has 2 s10's but ive got a set of center drop manifolds & u answered my question before i asked the 283 manifold is for a quadrajet & i have alot of them i rebuilt a holley before so didnt think it could be much worse i was wondering how they worked since u use one thats really good to know thank you very much really good info for me thanks
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ok heres some head #'s #376450 for a 262/305 1975/76 1.72int/1.50ext not sure on cc's then #333882 for a 350/400 1970/80 1.94int/1.50ext 76cc then #14022801 for a 305 1980/86 1.72int/150ext 58cc then #14102198 for a 350 1988/93 1.94int/150ext efi swirl port not sure on cc then ive got to get the full # but have the set of 462's & also have a few more #'s just havin a lil trouble looking them up thank you
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