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Old 08-19-2018, 07:40 PM
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Do we need to see other options to help decide? (see previous post)

Also um... this pic is not altered....

In terms of weld length economy and thus frugality:

Chopping the back window 2" is cheapest

Moving the back window down 2" is next

Moving the window down or chopping it 1" would be high and hard.

Thoughts on what might look best? I vote move it 2" down.


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Do we need to see other options to help decide? (see previous post)

Also um... this pic is not altered....

In terms of weld length economy and thus frugality:

Chopping the back window 2" is cheapest

Moving the back window down 2" is next

Moving the window down or chopping it 1" would be high and hard.

Thoughts on what might look best? I vote move it 2" down.


I'd say same height as side glass, on the same plane as well?
You got a 3/4 rear shot?
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And since flipping to the previous page is asking too much:
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The slight rake really looks good.
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And since flipping to the previous page is asking too much:

I stick to my first comment. Same height as back side glass and lined up with it.
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Old 08-20-2018, 06:20 PM
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Its getting chopped with the rest of the top, thats the word.

I gotta apologize for asking you guys to look at that pic. I am used to having my efforts on those things dismissed, and hearing I'm crazy more and more each time. But the other fab guys looked at me like I was nuts and kept repeating your picture is ucked up while stringing tape across the car. After that, they were just in my way until one walked off while I kept repeatng I hadn't changed the windshield angle but might have held my camera crooked which wouldn't matter.

When I shared the idea of not sectioning the A pillar, just trimming it and moving the cross piece down... the look turned to amazement. Boss said my pic looked very informative. Whats for me to know and them to find out is I will just do from now on. Not a minute of spare time spent doing car edits. I got the fly on the wall version of the other fab guys' reaction to my Cat front end ideas. Between the lines, I'm a nut job. I really don't care what they are doing on the bumper exhaust thing but don't understand why I could not get the same answers before building it as they are having now. What-evz.

Technical post forthcoming. Technical difficulties posting with phone at lunch, did the work just couldn't post due to a worsening problem with my blog site. I have been doing double work for weeks now, to get pics uploaded and at lunch theres only time for one shot at it.
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Right quarter, before:





This dent had friends all the way up to the body line and back to the axle and the wheel lip was mashed in some.



Straightend that then stuck masking paper to the quarter and creased it with fingernail at the remnants of the contours, guessing 1-1/4" wide at the bottom based on the other side which had more left. Then I peeled it, laid it flat and drew out the lines. Hey as long as "I" know which one is the real line, we're good, right?



Pirated another slab off ol Lumpy. Believe thats all I want to use off him but you never know. Anyway, here... I have flipped the left side pattern and adjusted for best consistency at that line, and am in the process of trimming pattern away to draw each line.



And that was lunch-


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Old 08-20-2018, 07:31 PM
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Entering the grey room with a belch suitable for stepping off the elevator into an empty parking garage, I went on and did my crazy things and minutes later a fab guy stopped in his tracks, glaring at the thing in my hand. I was just finishing up at the bead roller and he says You just made that? Then came praise and I was the one looking lost. Everybody said they were simple, now its awesome. Ah, Monday.

So here we are at the roller part. There was time spent at the wheel prior to this, but not much since the general shape was started and it was smoother than the last. At this point, unlike the other side I have made one careful pass with stepping dies for the body line. The other was more like five with none perfect. This one sags in the middle a smidge.

At this point, where I forgot to do anything on the other, I remembered Rip's T door skins and did the stroll, over toward the engish wheel for a moment. With only the body line stepped, I spread out the wheels and with a flat anvil, I gently tipped a radius just outside the stepped line. Well in places too far and in some not enough, but just to entertain myself I reckon. Any mortal would play hell matching the whimsical factory shapes.

Anyhow, then I shuffled back to the brake and bent the bottom. Bumped that with the shrinker for some itty bit of curve to grow on... and ended up having to move that bottom line. Easy, Pugs.

Then, being as how I was tippy already, why I just tiptoed on over to the punch bo... er... bead roller again. I did say this was the roller part, didn't I? Flipped one step die around like I like to do for tipping duties such as this. I take too big'a bites though. A feller oughtn't do that. Several light passes are best but I know the ugly mark gets hid plus I can wheel it or something, watch and see.





Reckon it was long about then when ol Mister Smartypants came passing by and gawked. That run me off over to the V and A where I thought of Pugsy's demo. My decent hammers is all flat faced so out come the big boppin honkin whopper slapper-



He could smoke me at hammering, folks. And I'm starting the week with callouses (sp?) from it. My money says the 455 will chew that 327 though.

OK, ok, I'll get on with it! Here. Bottom needs work, I rebent it in the brake Need to check out my rocker but yeah, this dog will also hunt I suppose. I ain't willing to commit without other panels on but the quarters will be easier to handle and to fasten with these screwed patches for the time being. I'm pleased with it thus far. Yes I did use the stretcher on that wheel lip edge for fine tuning.





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You didn't think that was all, didya? Cat wants out, too.

What they are doing here is making way for the exhaust to exit from the bumper tips. There was a carriage bolted corner bumper bracket before.

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I met the owner of this car today and he is real happy to see the state of affairs plus he was curious about what was under his Dad's bodywork. Seemed like a pretty good guy, very positive about all of it and anxious to see it chopped. Since our conversation was just us, I got a decent feel for his expectations. Good first visit.
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I screwed a door on it. Boy is there a lot of variation in overlap. If not for the oh say half inch overlap at the top and top half of the rear, the door could almost fit flush, barely. I'm working on a plan for all these mods together and the chop keeps floating to the top of the list to do, the farther I think it out. Its a pleasure working on this A so far, its just so bare bones simple. Funny shaped as me in a funhouse mirror though.

Glad I mentioned to the customer about the dip at the rear door gap when you flush fit doors. Amidst all the other operations, I think I can get rid of that so it flows. I am thinking hardest on how to do the quarter and pillar at the door. Do not want a weld all the way up the quarter and am enjoying thinking up ways that I like, to maybe do it. Don't put it past me to un-skin the door tops either, I might as well.

The quarter has no pillar in it here, and the door iis just screwed where the body line lines up best, or close to that. I sure hope we can get new drip rails. Checking.



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I won't deny it if accused of backing up. A little. Not going to show this to anybody at work but for me, its concrete proof I can do this as planned. Theres no arguing the chop amount, this is a 2/3 and the side window looks lovely to me so I know just what to do. Now if I only had the roof insert panel. I can continue on the current area of focus. Its a load off my mind confirming with tape marks. to em all if they don't like my pictures! I chopped the shop along with the A in the bottom pic. By the way, the A owner is business partners with the yellow 68 Camaro owner if any of you recall that one.

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Well, the door top still just barely overlaps and about the top third of the rear as well. Area under the drip rail has to go anyway, rusted. I think its going to go flush, no problem.

Can you tell what I have done to make the door fit in the hole? Its a bit sneaky.



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I am going to guess you dropped the body a little on the gig.??

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Cut the top of the A pillar from the roof and move it forward?
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