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Old 06-30-2003, 01:47 PM
 
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E-coating

I saw that someone refered the website www.ecoatking.com for ecoating services. I had the shell of my 68 camaro acid dipped and e-coated by this company (Carponents) and unfortunately the owner has decided not to perform this service any longer. Does anyone know of another business that does e-coating of automotive parts in the Detroit-Toledo area? I still need to get the subframe and door shells done to finish my project.

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Brian

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Old 09-03-2003, 03:59 PM
 
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Ecoating

There's a guy in Mt. Clemons that does powder coating and ecoating. Not sure how big his tank or oven is but should be able to hande a sub-frame and smaller parts.

Powder Cote II
Charlie Trott
PO Box 368
Mt. Clemens, MI 48046
Phone: (586) 463-7040 Fax: (586) 463-2754

http://www.powdercoteii.com/
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Axelrod,

Thanks for the info but I ended up using Burkhard Industries in Clinton Township. They just started e-coating this year and they did excellent work at very reasonable prices.

Brian
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Did they strip the parts for you? What process? Do you know what coating/paint they used, (PPG epoxy, etc.)? Was it a finished top coat or undercoat?

I'll keep Burkhard's name for reference. I was looking at ECoat King myself for some parts I want to get treated and then found out the owner had discontinued this service. I contacted PPG and they gave me the Powder Cote II reference. I spoke to the owner and he seemed reasonable in price if you batch up small parts. He has a minimum charge of $200.00, I think.

I wanted to do front crossmember, brake drums, steel rims, upper and lower A frames, bumper brackets and a few other small parts. I think the ecoating offers an advantage in durability over a self etching epoxy primer and polyurethane top coat that has been applyed by spraying. No doubt it gets into places a sprayer can't, plus it's an even thickness over all of the surface.
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Axelrod,

I live in Canton so I took the parts to International Paint Stripping in Belleville myself. IPS does chemical dipping to completely strip the parts inside and out. I had the entire shell of my 68 camaro done there. IPS is where the owner of Carponents (ecoatking.com) takes all of his parts. I took the parts straight from IPS to Burkhard the next day. The only problem is that you have to be careful with IPS. I don't think I've ever come out of there with out at least one part damaged. You also have to tell them that you are going to have the parts e-coated immediately after the acid dip. Otherwise they call you several days after the parts have been stripped and when you go to pick them up they have alot of flash rust on them. Burkhard then uses another 15 or 20 step cleaning and prep process before e-coating them with a PPG e-coating.

I'm absolutely addicted to ecoating. You name it and I've had it e-coated. From my axle housing to the glove box door I've had it all done. Burkhard is also very reasonable. They charged me 75 for the rearend, 200 for the subframe, 100 per door shell and 150 for a box of another 20 or so small pieces such as the glove box door, backing plates, and leaf spring mounts and brackets.

I believe they also have a 200.00 minimum. From my experience Burkhard was better than Carponents because the ecoating had little to no dirt in it. When I had the shell of my camaro done there is obviously alot of dirt in the coating. The disadvantage of Burkhard is that they will not take your greasy filthy part and clean it. Hope this helps.

Brian
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Thanks for the info. Very helpful. I was a little apprehensive about the acid stripping process at Ecoat King.

I have used a process similar to Redi Strip (Revivation) while living in Florida. It works great for GENTLY cleaning grime and removes rust with an electrolytic process the reverse of plating that literally causes the iron oxide rust to fall off of steel or iron. It won't remove good metal like acid dipping can, (remember when FX and Pro Stock cars used to acid dip to lighten sheet metal? Even Chrysler did it with certain factory production racers).

Anyway, I found a company in Toledo that uses the same Redi Strip process, American Metal Cleaning, Inc. Their website is www.americanmetalcleaninginc.com I would recommed this process over acid dipping if you ever need more parts cleaned. Same problem with flashing. Whether you plan to spray or Ecoat, it needs to get done ASAP. They do apply a water based rust inhibitor to get you home.

A couple of additional questions if you don't mind. Do you need to put a finish coat over suspension parts Ecoated?, or is the coating good enough. Obviously, the body gets painted but I wasn't sure about suspension pieces. My understanding is that the durability is similar to epoxy and polyurethane finishes that are sprayed. Do you know how big the Ecoat tank is at Burkhard?
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do you guys know of anyone in the nor-cal area that does the chemical dipping/priming? I have a 55 chevy I want to restore, and can't find anyone to do it. Thanks.
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E-coat in Detroit MI

To the individual looking for e-coat in Detroit-Toledo area, you might want to check out Electro Prime
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Stripping and eCoating

Regarding International Paint Stripping in Romulus Mi:
Mark, the owner, changed his price from $25 to $40 to eCoat my straight six cylinder oil pan AFTER doing the job. He was rude on the phone and will not honor the price quoted on their standard pricing sheet and confirmed when I dropped off the oil pan. STAY AWAY from this crook. Do you really want to take a chance with this guy changing his prices with you too?
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Just so you know, this thread is 8 years old... Although you do have a legitimate reason for posting to it...
Did you use a credit card to pay for the job? If so you can come back on him that way. If it was cash only, "fool me once".
Mark
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I did not pay at all when I found out the price jumped 60%, but I did register a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. Once they've contacted them to resolved the issue I'm confident the price will get adjusted. If it doesn't get resolved he can keep the pan since it's my spare anyway.
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