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Falcon Questions...

Alright, well some of you probably already know, I just picked up a 64 Falcon Wagon

https://www.hotrodders.com/forum/shou...et-140350.html

and now have a few questions, since I have never owned a Ford before, or really ever worked on one.

First off how do you set or adjust the timing on this motor, I thought it would be just like any other distributor, but on this one, I loosened what I believed was the hold down clamp, but the Distributor does not rotate, so I am guessing this motor must be different.

The motor seems to run good, (new plugs, wires, etc.) but I read somewhere that the idle for it should be 500 RPM's? but when I set it there the motor will run rough, thats why I want to check the timing.

Ummm... also one other question I have is when releasing the clutch, about halfway released the whole car will start shuddering, not really sure why so I thought I would ask, it does it the worst in 2nd gear, 1st and 3rd and too bad at all(a little but barely).

I've actually been driving it around and it drives pretty good, just those couple things I would like to fix

Oh yeah and I think it has the 170 in it with a 3 speed manual

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Hi,
The distributor turns & comes out the same as others, however there is no mechanical advance, so you need to check the vacuum canister to make sure it's working, timing is 6*BTDC, FO 153624, point gap.025, dwell 37-42, plug gap .035
For clutch chatter, check for loose or broken mounts
if all OK there, the disc may have oil on it,(most common)
clutch slippage due to normal ware will also cause chatter
Hope this helped,
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the vac advance does not work as a regular vac advance. it uses a modefied vac signal controlled by a spark control valve in the carb. because of this, there is no way to check proper operation, all you can do is verify that the diaphram is not cracked by putting a little vac on it.
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Ok Timing is good

Well, finally checked the timing and it is dead on at 6 degrees at 500 RPM's
The only problem is it still runs really really rough at 500 RPM's and eventually stalls. It seems to run rough under 1000 RPM's. 1000 and up and it is nice and smooth, no backfiring, popping, pinging, or anything, just idles really rough under 1000.

Still need to check gap and dwell though.
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Sounds like maybe a carb problem. If the car has been sitting for a long time, it may have a lot of varnish in the carb that needs to be cleaned out. Also, you need to check all the rubber vacuum lines. If any are cracked or broken, they need to be replaced. Also the plug wires need to be checked. Have you checked the plugs and points for proper gap or pitting of the points?

For the chattering, I'd second the above responses. Is there any oil dripping from under the flywheel area? If so, it's probably a rear main bearing seal. Or possibly the clutch disc is worn out.
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Alright, well I just tweaked the carb a bit and man what a difference, it actually has a little umphhh for its whopping 105 HP motor.

Runs much better now, oh yeah, the plug wires are new also.

Thanks for the help

Also you guys are probably right about the clutch, it probably is clutch chatter, though I still need to further inspect for oil leakage, but the driveway has been clean underneath the car since I got, so it is probably going to need a clutch soon
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Another cause of clutch chatter can be weak or improper anti-chatter springs in the clutch disc. I've had cheap rebuilt discs cause chatter right out of the box because the springs didn't have the proper tension. I don't use rebuilt discs any more.
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You might try TFFN it is a Falcon Forum and you can find out any thing you want to know about a Ford Falcon. I have a 63 Ranchero that has been hot rodded with a V-8. it is a really good site.
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