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Old 08-12-2019, 03:52 AM
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Fender to Body Attachment

I've finally got the project back in the garage after a long hiatus.
I need to repair the cowl area where the fenders attach.


I've seen some kind of rubber welting material between the fender and body but I don't like the look. How do others attach these w/o using that? Just bolt them together with nothing between?






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Old 08-12-2019, 04:28 AM
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i can't help you Pugs. I always use it. The challeng is to finish the ends and not just cut it off. To look finished the ends need to be turned under so they "disappear" and not just have a raw end.

Surely you could use a rubber gasket there if you wanted something that would not show.

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Old 08-12-2019, 05:24 AM
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You saw my approach to that recently. Setting tape, like what protects glass in movable or vent windows could be used if you like, as hidden padding.
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:32 AM
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You saw my approach to that recently. Setting tape, like what protects glass in movable or vent windows could be used if you like, as hidden padding.



Thanks, I may look but that doesn't mean I see.....
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:38 AM
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You saw my approach to that recently. Setting tape, like what protects glass in movable or vent windows could be used if you like, as hidden padding.



I Googled it.
Is that stuff sticky?
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Thanks, I may look but that doesn't mean I see.....
Is it OK to post pictures here at the size I normally use? Heres a link to one if not.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7Xrv6TW4g...806_122949.jpg

I plan to attach the reinforcing strip to the body and slide the fender in between. You could have a strip that attaches to the fender but my arrangement shown in that pic really pinches the attached panel securely and assures a tight fitting and wave free gap.
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I Googled it.
Is that stuff sticky?
No. A variety of thicknesses are available. It is not butyl, just thin rubber. Won't cook and migrate out of the seam and won't stick to the parts tenaciously.
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My thought is that if the panel is securely attached, the paint won't rub off. So I plan to use nothing. A PSA option would be clear chip protetor material like on late model vehicles at rock chip hotspots near wheel openings.
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It is my pleasure to draw it out napkin sketch style for my friend Pugsy. No biggie even if its not your style. But this is my thought, and I believe your fender would be well attached in this way. Consider also an extension in front/ on top of the fender reinf strip extending beneath the modified upper / front sections of the panel and attaching to core support or headlight area. To restore some of the rigidity lost when stock mating down flanges are removed, where it used to be more pieces but is now one.

Ask anything that poses a question, glad to bounce solution ideas anytime. You don't need to backtrack reading my thread now.
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If I can pile on an important note... if using this setup, the key to the super tight gap is in thumping on the fender reinf strip, and fender nearby, from inside with all that welded and bolted tight. Its rock solid after that.
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It is my pleasure to draw it out napkin sketch style for my friend Pugsy. No biggie even if its not your style. But this is my thought, and I believe your fender would be well attached in this way. Consider also an extension in front/ on top of the fender reinf strip extending beneath the modified upper / front sections of the panel and attaching to core support or headlight area. To restore some of the rigidity lost when stock mating down flanges are removed, where it used to be more pieces but is now one.

Ask anything that poses a question, glad to bounce solution ideas anytime. You don't need to backtrack reading my thread now.

Damn......nice sketch.



Yes, the extra reinforcing plate is required as I welded a new flange onto the fender already which makes me nervous. Corner weld. Was a mistake at the time.
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Somewhere along the way, you told me in a PM that a corner weld is easiest to grind. That stuck and where applicable, I leverage it. When a panel face is involved though, yea sometimes it is best to go around the corner just a bit. I enjoyed making the sketch.

You mentioned being a little suprised by how much is left to do on the 41... just remember your own elephant reference. It is also handy for a guy who gets jobs that are a year apiece or more.

You'll do fine once you figure out what exactly to do, and any "help" I can offer is all yours in exchange for those valuable nuggets of wisdom. If I ever shuck paint on the GP, you'll see how I really just skipped all the bodyman work. I wasn't one yet but woohoo boy that paint job!
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:56 AM
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Somewhere along the way, you told me in a PM that a corner weld is easiest to grind. That stuck and where applicable, I leverage it. When a panel face is involved though, yea sometimes it is best to go around the corner just a bit. I enjoyed making the sketch.

You mentioned being a little surprised by how much is left to do on the 41... just remember your own elephant reference. It is also handy for a guy who gets jobs that are a year apiece or more.

You'll do fine once you figure out what exactly to do, and any "help" I can offer is all yours in exchange for those valuable nuggets of wisdom. If I ever shuck paint on the GP, you'll see how I really just skipped all the bodyman work. I wasn't one yet but woohoo boy that paint job!

Actually, ya, the corner weld I did may be a blessing as it will come to a sharper edge than a bend would. I'll have to radius it somewhat for stickage, but not as much as if it were tipped.
I may well still run a bead on the inside of the corner. Lots of nugget penetration inside the corner but I'm really nervous about it especially after twisting on the flange to get the angle correct to meet the cowl.
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About the elephant.......posting my build a bit at a time may help get the juices flowing again. I think I'm slowly getting in the mood again..............


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