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Old 10-04-2008, 06:30 PM
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jeep shifter on a toplaoder?

I was reading an article about this guys 32 coupe...he had a flathead hooked to a toploader but it said he used a jeep shifter?...i am building a coupe and have a toploader going in it...does it mean a jeep has a shifter like a hurstshifter? whats this jeep shifter stuff?

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Some Jeeps, broncos and Pickup trucks used a Ford toploader transmission with a tower shift top cover. Some hotrod guys like to use it because it looks like an old timey trans, but is strong enough to live in todays world...(ford toploaders are as bulletproof as they come..427 AC cobras had them, so did all of the boss mustangs and torinos, big block as well as smallblock)

There were no exposed linkages like a Hurst. The shifter was mounted in the tower, moving the shift lever worked a set of rods inside the top cover which has the shift forks hooked to them. The shift forks hang down from the cover, into the trans, instead of coming in from the side.

I found a picture of a Ford truck aluminum case toploader with the towershift.



Found that here, in a thread on the classicbronco board.

http://classicbroncos.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=107159

There is some good info in that thread, but you'll have to sift through it some to get what you'll need to know.



I understand there were Ford toploader 3 and 4 speeds used in some Jeeps, broncos and pickup trucks. The majority of those were set up with a short output shaft (so you could hook it to a transfer case), and no tailshaft housing but the shift tower top cover can be adapted to the passenger car 3 or 4 speed toploader. You need the right top cover, a 3 speed cover won't work a 4 speed, and vice versa.

You would take the passenger car trans apart, get rid of the shift levers, shafts, and shift forks, then plug the shifter shaft holes in the side of the case..The Jeep style top cover then bolts on the trans, with the shift forks engaging the gears.


I'm not sure of all of the specifics, I never did the conversion myself.

I understand that Frank Oddo did a write up on the process 15 or 20 years ago in one of the magazines ...street rodder maybe? Maybe it is in one of his tech tips or how to build a streetrod books.


Here is a link to a page with some toploader info..

http://www.5speeds.com/toploader.html


Hope this helps..
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jeep shifter

ahhh...now it makes sense...but it looks like if i did that my shifter would be too far forward..not sure....do you happen to know what year jeeps had this tower shifter?
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Found in an article in Hemmings...


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The Toploader-looking units that are found in 1980-'84 Jeep applications are also three-speed transmissions with overdrive, although an actual Toploader swap is an easy upgrade for these trucks
I don't know a whole lot about doing this conversion other than I know it has been done, and even seen a few. Been inside a few toploaders too.


So when I saw that a bunch of people looked at this thread, with no response, so I took what I knew already, (a little), then did some research to get what I posted above.

When I was poking around, I saw a topshift cover for sale on craigslist, I think it was at home, so I'll need to look back on my home computer's history for the link.


The transmissions in the old Fords had the stick coming out of the top like that, my 37 would only need the stick bent back a little for that toploader to work with the flatty.

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well i have a toploader all rebuilt...i also have a 3spd od thats was real noisy in second and fourth when i took it out of service..maybe i will look around for a tower. I also have a 5 spd from a 1992 jeep 6 cyl laredonot sure if that will work but i heard they use them in bronco conversions...
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I used one of the (RUG) OD top loaders in my model A. It came from a 85 F-150. I cut the original 85 shift lever off about 1" above the pivot and welded on a lever from a 39 3-speed. It needs a little more tweeking as far as the bends in it go, but it works great.
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jeep shifter

well if you find that shifter mike...let me know...i may want to try this jeep thing...
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http://stockton.craigslist.org/pts/857477341.html


Stockton, Ca is about 2 hours from me, give the guy a call and ask if he can ship it.

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