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Old 01-17-2004, 06:51 PM
 
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black

i have a half mask that i got for when i was spray painting....tried to find a picture but didn't come up with anything on google.

And i don't really understand what you said about the clear, it will work, or won't work. I understand it won't be flat anymore, but originally i wan't going to go with a flat black, this just seems to be a much cheaper/better option.

since i'm a first time painter i don't really know that much about enamels, is there anywhere i could go to look up info on safety info and info on spraying with them?

Thanks for all the help motoedge, you probably just saved me a thousand $ or so.


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is the part # listed a spray can, or a can for a paint gun such as an hvlp gun?
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Call the John Deere dealer and ask them about a clear coat. I am sure someone has asked them that before. Like maybe one of those parade driving tractor guys...
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OMG guys

Flat black was soooooooo yesterday......go buy some kick *** metalic PPG color and spray a matte clear over it (ppg of course).

Don't be a smart *** and reply yesterday = old school.

Flat black=boring..

Try copper candy...blue metallic, pearl white...or my favorite metallic grey.

I just came back from the roadster nationals in Pomona California and saw how flats were boring in person...don't make the same mistake!!

COWTOWN PUNK!!!
DRINK, DRANK, DRUNK.
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OMG guys

Flat black was soooooooo yesterday......go buy some kick *** metalic PPG color and spray a matte clear over it (ppg of course).

Don't be a smart *** and reply yesterday = old school.

Flat black=boring..

Try copper candy...blue metallic, pearl white...or my favorite metallic grey.

I just came back from the roadster nationals in Pomona California and saw how flats were boring in person...don't make the same mistake!!

COWTOWN PUNK!!!
DRINK, DRANK, DRUNK.
i may paint the car some other color later on....but no matter what color it will be black....as will all my cars. All those ideas may be well and good for a $$$$ route but, as mentioned, this paint is a $$$ instead.

I'm not an experienced painter, and will be doing the car myself, so candies, pearls, ect aren't in the picture. Was thinking of a black base with a red or purple candy for later on in the cars life or for some airbrushed graphics.
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Blitz Black isn't flat black. It is more of a semi-gloss or satin.
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John Deere Blitz Black

Below is the most exact information I have found for you guys doing the flat/satin black.

From: Valspar Paint General Manager. (They make Blitz Black for John Deere.)

#1. If the existing paint is relatively good condition (ie. no peeling paint, no large amount of rust, etc) no primer is needed. Scuff sand the existing paint with extra fine grit sandpaper, wipe surface with a clean cloth and then apply John Deere Blitz Black.

#2. If primer is used due to bare metal or minor surface defects, we suggest the John Deere Buff Primer (available in aerosols, quarts and gallons). This is a very "user friendly" formulation that provides good sandability, excellent filling/sealing properties and enhanced corrosion resistance.

#3. A reducer is needed for optimum sprayability and appearance. We suggest the use of the John Deere thinner/reducer (available in quarts gallon and fives). It is formulated specifically for John Deere paints. The mix ratio is 8 parts John Deere paint : 1 part John Deere thinner.

#4. John Deere Blitz Black is an "air dry" formulation...but if a you want the paint to dry faster and harder, John Deere has a hardener in their product line. It is available in pints, part number REN3001. The mix ratio is 8 parts John Deere paint : 1 part REN3001 hardener : 1 part John Deere thinner.

Some more info...the exact same formulation is used in the aerosols as in the quarts/gallons. This helps with touch-ups and is critical in low gloss applications such as the Blitz Black.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black

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Originally posted by motoedge
Below is the most exact information I have found for you guys doing the flat/satin black.

From: Valspar Paint General Manager. (They make Blitz Black for John Deere.)

#1. If the existing paint is relatively good condition (ie. no peeling paint, no large amount of rust, etc) no primer is needed. Scuff sand the existing paint with extra fine grit sandpaper, wipe surface with a clean cloth and then apply John Deere Blitz Black.

#2. If primer is used due to bare metal or minor surface defects, we suggest the John Deere Buff Primer (available in aerosols, quarts and gallons). This is a very "user friendly" formulation that provides good sandability, excellent filling/sealing properties and enhanced corrosion resistance.

#3. A reducer is needed for optimum sprayability and appearance. We suggest the use of the John Deere thinner/reducer (available in quarts gallon and fives). It is formulated specifically for John Deere paints. The mix ratio is 8 parts John Deere paint : 1 part John Deere thinner.

#4. John Deere Blitz Black is an "air dry" formulation...but if a you want the paint to dry faster and harder, John Deere has a hardener in their product line. It is available in pints, part number REN3001. The mix ratio is 8 parts John Deere paint : 1 part REN3001 hardener : 1 part John Deere thinner.

Some more info...the exact same formulation is used in the aerosols as in the quarts/gallons. This helps with touch-ups and is critical in low gloss applications such as the Blitz Black.
SWEEET!!!!!! great, thanks for the info motoedge, exactly what i wanted to know
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Excellent! I am printing that info.
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John Deere Blitz Black

You guys should talk to Shawn as well. He will be out of town this week but try him on Monday 9th. This is the guy I got the info from in the first place. He will be able to get you even more detailed info if needed.

Cool.... Jade @ http://www.*.com/

Shawn Mahady
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Aftermarket Specialties Valspar Paint
phone 612-375-7942
e-mail [email protected]

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John Deere Blitz Black

!!!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!!
John Deere Blitz Black cureing windows.

Shooting to a good surface IE: Bare metal, John Deere Primer, or to a good base of existing paint scuffed up.

1 light tack coat and wait no longer than 15 minutes to shoot the full wet coat.
For a second coat which is NOT needed but why the hell not.
Wait up to but NO longer than 3 hours to apply second coat.
But if you go past 3 hours DO NOT shoot another coat because the paint will react and go to $#!T. Wait 36 hours until you shoot the next coat. For each coat the same times apply. But one good coat with the 8 to 1 to 1 (8-1-1 paint-thinner-hardener) will be more than enough.

Cool.....
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black

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!!!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!!
John Deere Blitz Black cureing windows.

Shooting to a good surface IE: Bare metal, John Deere Primer, or to a good base of existing paint scuffed up.

1 light tack coat and wait no longer than 15 minutes to shoot the full wet coat.
For a second coat which is NOT needed but why the hell not.
Wait up to but NO longer than 3 hours to apply second coat.
But if you go past 3 hours DO NOT shoot another coat because the paint will react and go to $#!T. Wait 36 hours until you shoot the next coat. For each coat the same times apply. But one good coat with the 8 to 1 to 1 (8-1-1 paint-thinner-hardener) will be more than enough.

Cool.....

Where can I get John Deere BB if I don't have a John Deere supply closer then a couple hundred miles???
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http://dealerlocator.deere.com/servl...e=&postalCode=

Cut Copy & Paste the link above for a Dealer Locator

Blitz Black TY6416 $23.00 +or-$
Primer TY6457 $24
Reducer PT158 $14

Are these prices for a gallon of each?
If so im hoppin all over this thanks for posting that.

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John Deere Blitz Black

Blitz Black TY6416 $23.00 +or-$
Primer TY6457 $24
Reducer PT158 $14

The prices are for gallons. The reducer is in quarts. They also make Blitz Black in spray cans. Just dont go to a regular paint shop for the stuff. JDBB is about $100 a gallon. So go to a JD dealer. Prices are + or - $$ but still stupid cheap.

On another note JDBB was put in a weather room and beat up by freezing, heat, acid rain and other harsh crap. It held up equal and better than most all of the top super expensive paints.

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how do i get some?

hello!

i need some of that JD BB. looks real nice. but i am in CA and i cant seem to find anything on the internet to order some. has any one ordered from any one? do i need to call the dealership out of cali and have it sent to another address in another state, and then have it shipped to me? any help would be nice. i am painting my car in a few weeks and i need the paint and primer pronto for it.

thanx for all your help on the board everone. if i get my hands on it, i will post some pics of my ride on the net for you to look at.

thanx once again!

Supa-haole
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