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Mustang II Steering mounting question

Hi Guys,

New owner of a 1940 Ford Deluxe.

I got this car delivered to me and when it was coming off the car carrier it slipped on the wet ramps and fell of the ramps a bit. The only real damage is that it ripped the passenger side of the steering rack off of the mount as you can see in the photo.

The whole thing is a bit puzzling because it almost seems like there was never anything holding it on properly, but whatever, I just need to get it back together.

I'm also including a photo of the passenger side mount bolt setup as it came off the vehicle. There was no washer between the bolt head and the metal bushing (is there supposed to be?) and there was no rubber bushing between the head of the bolt and the mount on the rack itself.

What exactly am I missing here? A rubber bushing that faces the other one and a washer to hold it down underneath the bolt head?

I've been searching all over the place and nothing really shows me exactly how it's supposed to look. I'm hoping you guys can help me understand.

Third photo is the # on the rack itself. The distance between the mounts is 15.5". On the remaining rubber grommett it says Gould 63457.

Thank you!
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There should be two parts to the rubber bushing on each side. No need for a flat washer on the crossmember side but should be a flat washer on the bolt head side. As you can see the one bushing you have will only go about half way thru the rack mount. First I would try to put it back together and see if there has been internal damage by lifting the front end off the ground and try the steering. If you feel OK with the rack then it's time to hunt for new bushings and put it back together right. Appears you have a non-power rack, correct?
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There should be two parts to the rubber bushing on each side. No need for a flat washer on the crossmember side but should be a flat washer on the bolt head side. As you can see the one bushing you have will only go about half way thru the rack mount. First I would try to put it back together and see if there has been internal damage by lifting the front end off the ground and try the steering. If you feel OK with the rack then it's time to hunt for new bushings and put it back together right. Appears you have a non-power rack, correct?
Hi, thanks for responding! Yes, manual steering. I already have it up on jack stands and am basically ready to put it back together, I just need the parts I guess. I'm fairly confident there's no real damage but if there is I'll just replace the whole thing.

So I'm missing just another one of those rubber bushings? You mentioned there are two parts on each side...two on EACH side or two total?

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There should be two parts to the rubber bushing on each side. No need for a flat washer on the crossmember side but should be a flat washer on the bolt head side. As you can see the one bushing you have will only go about half way thru the rack mount. First I would try to put it back together and see if there has been internal damage by lifting the front end off the ground and try the steering. If you feel OK with the rack then it's time to hunt for new bushings and put it back together right. Appears you have a non-power rack, correct?
Also, any idea if places like Pep Boys or O'Reillys or AutoZone would stock something like that? What would I tell them I'm looking for? A mounting bushing for a Mustang II steering rack?

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Also, any idea if places like Pep Boys or O'Reillys or AutoZone would stock something like that? What would I tell them I'm looking for? A mounting bushing for a Mustang II steering rack?

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You would use 2 short bushings on each mounting bolt. That's 4 total. OR you could use 1 long bushing on each bolt. That's 2 total. I don't know about local parts stores but Speedway and Jegs or Sunnit would have them. I installed lock nuts on mine.

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Go to Rock Auto, and look up a 1975 MII, then under steering you will find the bushings you need. Pictures too! As a side note if you ever decide to upgrade to power steering you can use a 1988 non-sport T-bird rack. Much cheaper. The price at Rock Auto is about $17 and price at Auto Zone is much higher but does come up. Use your existing bushing to match what you need because it appears there are two different types, one piece and two piece. Rock Auto is your friend if you have the time.
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Go to Rock Auto, and look up a 1975 MII, then under steering you will find the bushings you need. Pictures too! As a side note if you ever decide to upgrade to power steering you can use a 1988 non-sport T-bird rack. Much cheaper. The price at Rock Auto is about $17 and price at Auto Zone is much higher but does come up. Use your existing bushing to match what you need because it appears there are two different types, one piece and two piece. Rock Auto is your friend if you have the time.
If you do upgrade to the Tbird rack, note that the mount centers are 16". Speedway has offset bushings to use with your 15 1/2" mount holes. I used these parts to replace my original 1974 MII rack.
I think I have a new set of center hole bushings that came with the new rack, I can check later on today. Yours if you want them!
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I do have a set of 4 center hole bushings bushings that came with the T-bird rack, new & unused. Let me know if you want them.
Another note if you decide to upgrade to the T-bird PS rack. The splined steering shaft is 1/2 higher than the MII shaft.

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