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Old 10-27-2007, 03:53 PM
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New T-Bucket

I'm brand new to building a T, and I have a few questions. Hope someone can help. I've been looking at a few companies and their kits. Total performance looks good, Zipper looks good and Spirit looks good. I'm 6 ft tall and I want to sit down low in the bucket. Any suggestions?? I'm not a welder so the kit needs to be complete bolt together. With the light weight of these rods, will the friction shocks be okay? I really want to drive this T, and not just to shows but maybe a 300 mile trip in a day. I know I will have more questions and you all look like ya know your stuff.

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There are a lot of good kits on the market. If you don't have a welder or if you're not a welder, think about getting a rolling chassis. Most of the kit suppliers also have the chassis.


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how about a 32 roadster? I can help you out on that one...
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will the friction shocks be okay? I really want to drive this T, and not just to shows but maybe a 300 mile trip in a day.
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Step up to hydraulic shocks. They're far superior to friction "shocks". Just my opinion, but a 300 mile trip in any T-bucket is going to be a real adventure!

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You can check out my journal, I built a Total Performace T.

https://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ge=1&reverse=1

The key to comfort is pedal position, steering wheel position and seat position. Use springs in your seat, blankets on plywood are for rat rods. I sit low in my bucket. I basically use the back of the body for a seat back. I just used foam glued to the body and the vinal is tacked to wood.

I modified the standard Total steering column so it was lower and shorter.

Friction shocks suck! They can't control the tubular front axles if you have hairpins. You can go with a four link, but that's usually extra.

I've driven my T quite a bit, 800+ miles to '06 NSRA nat and 600+ miles to '07 Good Guys Columbus, so it can be done and I'm 6' and a "little" on the hefty side.

Good luck and keep asking questions.
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Thanks y'all. I followed your build, Arrowhead. Very nice. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'd rather have the hydraulic shocks. I'm going with the turtledeck, also. I'm trying to sell a Harley to finance this project, but if I have to, I'll just build it "One piece at a time".

I'll be asking more questions later.
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re;New T Bucket

The key to sitting down in your bucket is in your seat riser. I see so many T's with a 6" riser in them. I build mine with a 2 1/2 riser and then taper the supports down to 1/4" at the back. Ideally you want to strive for a 110 degree angle between the bottom cushion and the back cushion. Buy the time you get an upholstered cushion on top of that, you will be 5" to 7" at the front of the seat.

Another thing that takes up a lot of room inside your bucket is when the frame kick is inside the passenger compartment. If when the frame is built, the kick is at 60 degrees, the body can be positioned just in front of it.

As for traveling comfort, build a toe board into your floor. You would be surprised at how much less fatiguing that makes a long trip in a bucket. It dosen't feel like your feet are in a funnel.

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Thanks Youngster, but like I said, I'm real new to this. So, you would not go with the interior inserts like Spirit or Total performance have? Could you post some pics on how to build a low seating interior?

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Oh yeah, what's a toe board? I know, I know, real dumb, huh???
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Oh yeah, what's a toe board? I know, I know, real dumb, huh???
You're here to learn, and you can't do that without asking about what you don't know. Toe boards are a short piece of floor that forms the hypotenuse of the right angle formed by the firewall and main floor. I agree with Youngster on the seat riser, but in determining it's height, consider that the underseat area is a good place to install/access the battery, fuse block, and other misc. goodies so you'll want to consider that in your plan. The prefabed insert may preclude that use of space.

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re;New T Bucket

Babyburr...The only dumb question is the one you didn't ask. You will find everyone here is willing to answer your questions.

I personally like to build the seats and other interior appointments myself. Space in these great little cars is at premium. This become a huge factor when the driver is over 6". Inserts I have dealt with seem to through is fact out the window in the interest of looks.

Like Arrowhead posted, moving the back cushion as far back as you can, give you some free room. With the foam used today, you'd be surprised how thin a comfortable back cushion can be.

As for mounting some of your electronics under the seat, that's the best place on most cars. I put a long, narrow panel right behind the seat riser on the passenger side. Just aft of that there is a cut out for a battery box. On the drivers side, I cut a slot in the seat riser then fab a metal plate to hold the light switch, Ignition switch, dimmer switch and horn button. Works pretty good once you figure out how to get your foot on the dimmer switch.

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I just used some pieces of tapered wood screwed to the bottom of the floor for a seat riser. My seat has springs that sits on top of of the angled riser.



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Thanks guys,

I'm learning a lot here.

More questions to come.
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re;New T Bucket

Yeah...That's whay I'm talkin' about!
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You will want to use a spring for a seat not plywood. The first bucket i built had a plywood seat after 3000 miles I sold it. The new bucket has bucket seats in it and is very comfortable. I can drive it all day and not get tired of it.

I have a lot of dealings with Spirit Industry, you will be very happy dealing with Josh and Bob. Great folks for sure and great products too.
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