|Today 10:36 AM|
The people Dragonoake is looking for are Gene Winfield and designer Harry Bradley. I never heard this story before but after finding their names and the connection I poked around a little more and found this.
Here's where the story gets better for me. I've mentioned that I worked at a Pontiac Dealership in the San Fernando Valley as a New Car and Quick Service mechanic in those years. Livingston Pontiac was the closest dealership to where Titus had his shop and we saw him and his kid freaklently in our parts dept. One of our parts guy was a Tran's Am freak both car and the racing class. He was Titus's # one fan and was over at Jerry's shop all the time. He'ed drag back all the take off parts that Jerry took off his cars and replaced with heavier duty parts. Rear sway bars come to mind because I got a few and took them home Who knows, maybe I got one from this car? Doubt it but who knows. Here's the neater thing. Jerry would sometimes show up in a , you guessed it, a silver Trans Am.
Thanks Dragonoake for your question. I would have never been able to put this together!
|Today 03:37 AM|
|Yesterday 11:47 PM|
|Yesterday 06:42 PM|
I will have to find a High Perfomance Pontiac mag article, I betcha Rocky knows the scoop.
Before I search for the truth and disqualify myself though, I have to ask what 69 Trans Am?
It was a 69 1/2. That much I think I remember.
|Yesterday 01:38 PM|
One is a well known artist who had worked for GM for a while, but left before 1967
The other is a legendary West Coast customizer
|12-08-2019 11:32 PM|
Bill Porter and Jack Humbert were the design team through Gen 2 Firebird. Both under the direction of John DeLorean, head of Pontiac.
Both firebird and Camaro were put into production to combate Fords Mustang. GM at first thought the mustang would be nothing more than a warmed over Falcon. Bad spys! The Firebird and Camaro had been put on the back burners earlier because Pete Estas of Chevy didn't want anything to come close to the Corvette in performance . The GTO could have been a lot more peppier except for the Corvette.
|12-08-2019 09:10 PM|
|idrivejunk||Knudsen and Beswick come to mind next, as I pull names out of a foggy hat. Never really concerned myself with Firebirds and as for me being a Pontiac guy... yeah I like how they look. I like the engine. I know song names but artist names or histories, no. Same thing. I like to hear the word Pontiac come up naturally in conversations and since we live close to one another, you know as well as I do how many later ones are in traffic still. Sure thought the first guess was the guys who did the 69 GP and I figured it might be the same guys. But I'm out of names at the moment, off the top of my head.|
|12-08-2019 08:26 PM|
Neither was working for GM at that time
|12-08-2019 07:08 PM|
|12-08-2019 05:54 PM|
OK, who came up with the design for the '69 Pontiac Trans Am?
Two names you'll know
|12-08-2019 05:19 PM|
It is the XP-719, a mid-engine Corvette concept with retractable roof. Here is the article my info and the GM pic came from:
The Mystery of the Little-Known 1959 XP-719 Corvette Rear-Engine Prototype
Here is a Chevy page that shows the CERV prototypes:
Posting links so I don't tell a pack of lies.
Never did get my chicken dinner yesterday, think I will now. And I hope my question was not a repeat. Enjoy the articles. Wild stuff there.
|12-08-2019 03:16 PM|
I can't find a picture of it, but it seems to me there was a mid-engined Corvette prototype built around the late-50's
Closest thing I can find is CERV-2
I'm thinking some big name, possibly George Barris, bought it from GM in pieces years later
|12-08-2019 11:00 AM|
Getting colder, with this guess.
|12-07-2019 10:55 PM|
|Dragonoake||I'm going to say it's an early sketch of what became the Mustang concept car in the early-60's|
|12-07-2019 09:16 PM|
Quite! You could now buy a Corvair.
The pic is just a life sized drawing of a prototype with retractable hardtop from an interesting year at an interesting company but at least a couple versions were mocked up. Ultimately, and recently, the concept became a reality and a man whose name we all recognize is probably doing a jig or pumping his fist from the grave.
You guys keep making base hits and I will keep pitching cervballs and someone will slide home eventually.
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