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10-06-2011 01:20 PM | ||
user151 |
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If my technical comment is wrong you are welcome to correct me, but ad hominem attacks will not do it. Sorry you have a problem with Rod and Custom but the reference I gave matches exactly what Sam said -- for side steer. |
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10-06-2011 11:39 AM | ||
OneMoreTime |
If for some reason one is out of money (common hotrod problem), the unisteer looks like it may be an omni or cavelier rack modified for the purpose..So if you just have to have a rack on a cross link steering look into one of those and just attach the link to the right side only. Some thinking on the fabrication of the bracket and one might come up with one that looks good. Sam |
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10-06-2011 11:33 AM | ||
OneMoreTime |
Pictured is the the drag link style..the other is cross link style. either works if setup correctly.. Sam Quote:
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10-06-2011 09:36 AM | ||
Irelands child |
Steering Terminology 101 Drag link = from steering arm to steering box, whether its cross steering (Vega) or longitudinal (F100, Mustang, Schroeder) Tie rod = from steering arm to steering arm or spindle to spindle User 151 - again!! You are in the wrong place/forum for your rinky dink aggressive and condescending comments attempting to "correct" folks like Centerline, Martinsr, or Deuce. Quite frankly, rags like Rod and Custom are often very, very wrong. |
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10-06-2011 09:15 AM | ||
MARTINSR |
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10-05-2011 06:42 PM | ||
user151 | I agree -- also see page 74 figure 13 in the October 2011 Rod and Custom. | |
10-05-2011 06:38 PM | ||
Centerline |
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this is the type steering that's being refereed to as a "drag link" style. In this case the "drag link" needs to be the same length as the "split bones" in order to eliminate bad things happening when the suspension moves around.![]() Centerline HotRodsAndHemis.com "Instructions are just the manufacturers opinion of how it should be put together". - Tim Allen |
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10-05-2011 05:49 PM | ||
user151 |
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10-05-2011 12:50 PM | ||
MARTINSR |
Sam, you can run the Vega or like box up at the crossmember with a cross link. Edit: I just re-read your post and this is what you meant, sorry. Brian ![]() |
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10-05-2011 12:41 PM | ||
OneMoreTime |
I have been following this thread and all I can say is that the uni-steer is about the only practical rack steering box for an early ford that I know of. the vega type box works fine for most guys but if not having the box up front like that requires then one needs to go back to the drag link setup. Drag link setups can work out just fine if and a big if the length of the drag link matches the length of the radius rods.. I have seen this same discussion many times before and while I am not sure just what the guys in the past have wound up doing for me the works good and steers right overrides anything else.. Sam |
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10-05-2011 09:10 AM | ||
MARTINSR |
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The design you are using may be a "rack and pinion" by the design of unit it's self but the way it's mounted it really isn't a "rack and pinion" as we know it, it's simply a cross link "steering box" of a different design. If it were mounted like that without a tie rod running from left to right spindle and you had the tie rod ends going off the rack to the left and right spindles you would have the exact same issue as if it were mounted to the crossmember. Just to clear things up your "rack and pinion" in your setup is actually a simply replacing a steering box and drag link. Brian |
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10-05-2011 08:55 AM | ||
Deuce |
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TRUE ,,, I was thinking about my reply ... and came back to change it to BUMP STEER ... and had already been caught with incorrect information. ![]() Mounting the rack on the crossmember or the axle is still a bad idea IMHO. . |
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10-05-2011 08:38 AM | ||
MARTINSR |
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But the caster never changes, or not much at all and it wouldn't effect how it drives. Brian |
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10-05-2011 08:16 AM | ||
Deuce |
If the rack is NOT mounted to a frame rail, it must be mounted to the front crossmember ![]() ![]() DEUCE ... Moderator ![]() |
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10-05-2011 12:01 AM | ||
65shelby |
drop axle trust me, I understand the vega bracket,I am wondering about another rack design that does NOT use the vega bracket. I am trying to keep that area on the left frame rail clean of obstruction. Thanks again |
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