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Yesterday 11:11 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
Looks a whole lot better than the first pic.

I got handed another front room failure this week. 1995 Suburban they replaced most of the sheet metal on 3 years ago and got back from paint about 18 months ago and didn't have room/time/talent to put it all together, so pushed it outside and stored the interior in a shed. Yep, mouse city and stench in the truck and the brand new carpet in the shed. Frankenstein nightmare of mismatched doors, window regulators and interior panels, that I now get to sort out and swap pieces to make it look right. This, immediately, turned into MUCH more than "put this together for me"... Can't wait for my summer job to start.
Gee whiz, now its your turn. To simply, merely... make order from chaos. At least I'd bet thats another body you are familiar with to some extent. I detest doors made that way, with the reg on a plate. Brings to mind the oh too familiar obligatory wrist scratch from blend prep teardown while leaving all that balderdash in place.

Whats the summer gig? Camaro tail panel and such?

Oh, thats right... the building builder. You just gonna be regular crew or do you get an appropriately merciful "senior" duty of some sort? Hauling for him maybe.

I saw Pokey the stick, BTW. Thats just right for bullying.

Before I re-re-forget...

1980 Citation sedan, iron duke. Automatic. I know I've said it previously here (who knows where or when) but its not a favorite thing to tell.
Yesterday 10:02 PM
Too Many Projects Looks a whole lot better than the first pic.

I got handed another front room failure this week. 1995 Suburban they replaced most of the sheet metal on 3 years ago and got back from paint about 18 months ago and didn't have room/time/talent to put it all together, so pushed it outside and stored the interior in a shed. Yep, mouse city and stench in the truck and the brand new carpet in the shed. Frankenstein nightmare of mismatched doors, window regulators and interior panels, that I now get to sort out and swap pieces to make it look right. This, immediately, turned into MUCH more than "put this together for me"... Can't wait for my summer job to start.
Yesterday 08:38 PM
idrivejunk Straight out of the crate, hell I cannot in good conscience present a before picture like this and I sure ain't just setting a body on it like that. Blasting may occur later, I don't know. I do know too much skin oil surface rust when I see it-







So I asks myself I says...

Self, hows come they all start by walking up to it and for one reason or the other saying a question out loud with nobody to hear? Like: "Really! or "Serious?". Followed by the crushing loser sensation that is the horrifying reality of an entire career without vacation and me dying inside another notch. As I plummet flailing down the well of self despair, I catch the protruding root that says "If that weren't the case, you wouldn't have work." and the rope of logic cast into the well offers rescue. Humans are to work, I reassure myself and sun hits my face.

Before I snap back to reality, theres a tool in my hand and a song playing and I trudge forward with a bewildered deep breath, puzzling over how this is life. My unique position just consumes a disproportionate percentage of my mental capacity. I hope some have genuinely benefited somehow from this daily feed of one man's point of view.

I better get busy now, too much talking.

First, I put a maroon scuff pad under old 40 grit on my 6" DA and hit bad places. Wore gloves and used the excess portion of the pad by hand as needed. Then wore out that ol sheet of 40 quickly kissing spots and open areas.

Put down DA, picked up tool with wire cup brush and halfheartedly got into cramped areas. Blew it off gently. Dampened blue shop towels with tap water from a trigger bottle and "dust mopped" it thoroughly.-





Then off came the mechanic's gloves and on went double exam gloves. Out came the DX103 water-based paint prep degreaser for a fairly quick spray-n-wipe with trigger bottle and blue towels.

Finally, slower drying solvent based SX330 and more towels, wiping wet then dry and turning/tossing dirty rags like crazy. Stopping a little short with prep, compared to epoxy prepping. Not much though, just minus sandscratches. I reached underneath rails but mainly stuck to whats visible here.

Now I got down to business. Got maybe half done with this step and will finish in the AM and be turning my attention to the old white truck. It never fails to strike me just what I privelidge it is, for me, to do this work. Guess thats how I do the drop one pick up another don't lose a step thing. Bosses love that and documentation.

Dadburnit ID, don't lose the plot. This is almost done and you need a shower.

If I were a car, as much as I'd like to be a GP, I'm a Rambler fair and square.

Just post the pix!

I used an old bristle paint brush to wet with Picklex20 as needed, scrubbed rust lightly with the trimmed off piece of leftover scuff pad, and wiped clean. I think you can tell where I have and haven't been.





This may appear to be a posed product endorsement shot, but you know me better. It works quick, leaves nice, protects some, and for those reasons I like it very much. Unfortunately, it's acrid smell is not that of relish and isn't one that you would.

Yesterday 07:23 PM
idrivejunk If I was a little too IDJ earlier, pardon that please. My internal mental connection to family idiot light was on and by mid-morning my extended family had shrunk by one. That wouldn't excuse me if I spoke outta line, but...

Whatever, yeah. Shaking that off, knew it was coming. This AM, I knew something was wrong but not what or who. Then came the text.

The change I mentioned is to be toward a more traditional project thread based on liked examples. The A and the Cat were unique, massive, and significant jobs by my standards, and this thread is bloated so I intend to use the '51 job as my segway to a fresh thread. Which I can update at my lesiure only and with a fraction of the content. Blending into the scenery, if you'll allow.

Cat and A were worthy of details. Common repairs, not so much. So what, if anything, you lose by the change is the option to see something new twice a day. I merely exercise my rights and give myself a gift of time. Its about time.

Keep an ear to the ground. Meanwhile, here is this because I prefer to have the first task completed before posting a beginning on a fresh thread. You'll see how come. Thank you and stand by for the thrilling conclusion...
Yesterday 12:49 PM
idrivejunk The A is in good hands. Used this morning to purge and reload-







Boss been doing his #1 favorite thing in the world-

Yesterday 12:41 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
I still think they are great looking cars. Rust or not.


That's funny about the Pontiac's smoking the guy.
You had to see it, he was sincere. The look on my face too.

There are a handful of stock, desireable local Pontiacs around that are done up.. well...

like a Pontiac guy would do. Y'all know how some of us are.

And hell yeah late 60s Mustangs are good looking. I built a 70 Mach1 and have a pic of the owner's face right before he drove off. He was ear to ear.

Same could be said about prewar cars. Damn they did well focusing on style but its like everything else was an afterthought. Even fenders.
Yesterday 08:19 AM
123pugsy I still think they are great looking cars. Rust or not.


That's funny about the Pontiac's smoking the guy.
Yesterday 08:02 AM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
After rebuilding 5 first gen 'stangs, I would never own one. I was never drawn to them, or the whole uni-body concept anyway, but after experiencing the depth of rust and the many areas it can hide on that type of construction, no thanks. That is the very reason I've never owned a Chevy II. I've owned every other model of Bow Tie, except a corvette , but never a full unibody Chevy II. The '68 and up are better, but like the Camaro, have enough areas to rust around the rear torque boxes and frame rails.

I can see where specializing in just one type of car, a person would be so familiar with them, as to just strip it to the skeleton and then build it back from there, they would get very good at it.

I bet Rusty stays busy with them, as being the original "pony" car, they are still much coveted by the boomer crowd and the base models are more affordable than the Camaro's.

Onward with the A, B and F projects...
F. F? I think that red one was just getting the nose stripe. What am I forgetting?

Oh, F1. Very good.

I am fairly sure nobody remembers but theres a brand new fastback body in a crate out back, and another two that are rusted out. So we have adequate references to do the right thing. Boss man's show quality 65 FB is to him what my 69 GP is to me But you are right, rust is indeed rust and we (mankind) are using the cars forty years past the intended context.
Yesterday 07:52 AM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by John long View Post
Are you saying you would have to say no to someone specializing in the conversions or Mustang only restoration?

John
Conversions. The coupe-to-fastback converted one I saw did not appear to have been welded anywhere near enough. Couple tacks barely holding upper body structure to inner. Mike said the four link will likely break first romp too. But the man wanted show paint on it and big block in it. It was purportedly done by a shop which does nothing but that.

That owner was the one who when he caught wind of me being a Pontiac guy, he instantly flipped into an elevated and accusatory tone, pointed his finger and said "You!". Pontiacs had been taking his trophies and he was seriously suggesting that there was a judge ( Hey! Judge.) conspiracy singling him out at car shows. He don't know me very well, do he?

Its the same kind of suspicion that has you two wondering if intended to slander someone from SPIF with my statement. But theres no foundation to pour full of dogma from over there. I don't use SPI but I have been mentioned in negative context there by that Schoeder guy. While I do occasionally check the site for interesting topics, theres no cause for concern over me showing up there or to assume I know anyone else there.

I am changing my posting SOP as of the 51 job, by the way. FYI. Hope you guys like the new approach better.
Yesterday 07:34 AM
Too Many Projects After rebuilding 5 first gen 'stangs, I would never own one. I was never drawn to them, or the whole uni-body concept anyway, but after experiencing the depth of rust and the many areas it can hide on that type of construction, no thanks. That is the very reason I've never owned a Chevy II. I've owned every other model of Bow Tie, except a corvette , but never a full unibody Chevy II. The '68 and up are better, but like the Camaro, have enough areas to rust around the rear torque boxes and frame rails.

I can see where specializing in just one type of car, a person would be so familiar with them, as to just strip it to the skeleton and then build it back from there, they would get very good at it.

I bet Rusty stays busy with them, as being the original "pony" car, they are still much coveted by the boomer crowd and the base models are more affordable than the Camaro's.

Onward with the A, B and F projects...
Yesterday 05:00 AM
123pugsy
Quote:
Originally Posted by John long View Post
Are you saying you would have to say no to someone specializing in the conversions or Mustang only restoration?

You wouldn't need to say no thank you to Rusty. When he does a Mustang, he completely removes the skin. roof, cowl, all of it. He then puts the skeleton in a jig and builds the car back. He is undoubtedly one of the best in the area of Mustang restorations. Only Mustangs and an occasional Fairlane.

I suspect getting Rusty to build a car for you is not cheap.

John

Not cheap for sure.
I feel sorry for the guys that buy one and it looks great, but someones done a slather job. It then needs so much metal...and labour...$$$.



It's a shame to see, but happens a lot I'm sure.
02-26-2020 10:54 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
Oh yeah, those torque boxes and rails are like a funk retention science experiment. After seeing the last fastback, a converted coupe, the one where I shaved firewall... I would have to say no thank you to any place claiming to specialize in doing that.
Are you saying you would have to say no to someone specializing in the conversions or Mustang only restoration?

You wouldn't need to say no thank you to Rusty. When he does a Mustang, he completely removes the skin. roof, cowl, all of it. He then puts the skeleton in a jig and builds the car back. He is undoubtedly one of the best in the area of Mustang restorations. Only Mustangs and an occasional Fairlane.

I suspect getting Rusty to build a car for you is not cheap.

John
02-26-2020 08:57 PM
idrivejunk Oh yeah, those torque boxes and rails are like a funk retention science experiment. After seeing the last fastback, a converted coupe, the one where I shaved firewall... I would have to say no thank you to any place claiming to specialize in doing that.
02-26-2020 08:27 PM
123pugsy Rusty has a shop in Florida, I believe, where he fixes a lot of rusty Mustangs.
Strips the rusty panels off completely and puts them back together. He posts on the SPI forum.


After checking a few of his builds, every time I see a Mustang project, it gets me wondering how deep the rust really is. They hide it well.
02-26-2020 07:04 PM
idrivejunk Who is Rusty Gillis? The car at the shop has significant collision repair on the right side and extensive rust repair throughout, with both previously done improperly by an unknown hobbyist. Bryan is fixing it. Splitting the wheelhouse required to start.

I got one side finished-















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