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Today 08:19 AM
123pugsy I still think they are great looking cars. Rust or not.


That's funny about the Pontiac's smoking the guy.
Today 08:02 AM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
After rebuilding 5 first gen 'stangs, I would never own one. I was never drawn to them, or the whole uni-body concept anyway, but after experiencing the depth of rust and the many areas it can hide on that type of construction, no thanks. That is the very reason I've never owned a Chevy II. I've owned every other model of Bow Tie, except a corvette , but never a full unibody Chevy II. The '68 and up are better, but like the Camaro, have enough areas to rust around the rear torque boxes and frame rails.

I can see where specializing in just one type of car, a person would be so familiar with them, as to just strip it to the skeleton and then build it back from there, they would get very good at it.

I bet Rusty stays busy with them, as being the original "pony" car, they are still much coveted by the boomer crowd and the base models are more affordable than the Camaro's.

Onward with the A, B and F projects...
F. F? I think that red one was just getting the nose stripe. What am I forgetting?

Oh, F1. Very good.

I am fairly sure nobody remembers but theres a brand new fastback body in a crate out back, and another two that are rusted out. So we have adequate references to do the right thing. Boss man's show quality 65 FB is to him what my 69 GP is to me But you are right, rust is indeed rust and we (mankind) are using the cars forty years past the intended context.
Today 07:52 AM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by John long View Post
Are you saying you would have to say no to someone specializing in the conversions or Mustang only restoration?

John
Conversions. The coupe-to-fastback converted one I saw did not appear to have been welded anywhere near enough. Couple tacks barely holding upper body structure to inner. Mike said the four link will likely break first romp too. But the man wanted show paint on it and big block in it. It was purportedly done by a shop which does nothing but that.

That owner was the one who when he caught wind of me being a Pontiac guy, he instantly flipped into an elevated and accusatory tone, pointed his finger and said "You!". Pontiacs had been taking his trophies and he was seriously suggesting that there was a judge ( Hey! Judge.) conspiracy singling him out at car shows. He don't know me very well, do he?

Its the same kind of suspicion that has you two wondering if intended to slander someone from SPIF with my statement. But theres no foundation to pour full of dogma from over there. I don't use SPI but I have been mentioned in negative context there by that Schoeder guy. While I do occasionally check the site for interesting topics, theres no cause for concern over me showing up there or to assume I know anyone else there.

I am changing my posting SOP as of the 51 job, by the way. FYI. Hope you guys like the new approach better.
Today 07:34 AM
Too Many Projects After rebuilding 5 first gen 'stangs, I would never own one. I was never drawn to them, or the whole uni-body concept anyway, but after experiencing the depth of rust and the many areas it can hide on that type of construction, no thanks. That is the very reason I've never owned a Chevy II. I've owned every other model of Bow Tie, except a corvette , but never a full unibody Chevy II. The '68 and up are better, but like the Camaro, have enough areas to rust around the rear torque boxes and frame rails.

I can see where specializing in just one type of car, a person would be so familiar with them, as to just strip it to the skeleton and then build it back from there, they would get very good at it.

I bet Rusty stays busy with them, as being the original "pony" car, they are still much coveted by the boomer crowd and the base models are more affordable than the Camaro's.

Onward with the A, B and F projects...
Today 05:00 AM
123pugsy
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Originally Posted by John long View Post
Are you saying you would have to say no to someone specializing in the conversions or Mustang only restoration?

You wouldn't need to say no thank you to Rusty. When he does a Mustang, he completely removes the skin. roof, cowl, all of it. He then puts the skeleton in a jig and builds the car back. He is undoubtedly one of the best in the area of Mustang restorations. Only Mustangs and an occasional Fairlane.

I suspect getting Rusty to build a car for you is not cheap.

John

Not cheap for sure.
I feel sorry for the guys that buy one and it looks great, but someones done a slather job. It then needs so much metal...and labour...$$$.



It's a shame to see, but happens a lot I'm sure.
Yesterday 10:54 PM
John long
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Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
Oh yeah, those torque boxes and rails are like a funk retention science experiment. After seeing the last fastback, a converted coupe, the one where I shaved firewall... I would have to say no thank you to any place claiming to specialize in doing that.
Are you saying you would have to say no to someone specializing in the conversions or Mustang only restoration?

You wouldn't need to say no thank you to Rusty. When he does a Mustang, he completely removes the skin. roof, cowl, all of it. He then puts the skeleton in a jig and builds the car back. He is undoubtedly one of the best in the area of Mustang restorations. Only Mustangs and an occasional Fairlane.

I suspect getting Rusty to build a car for you is not cheap.

John
Yesterday 08:57 PM
idrivejunk Oh yeah, those torque boxes and rails are like a funk retention science experiment. After seeing the last fastback, a converted coupe, the one where I shaved firewall... I would have to say no thank you to any place claiming to specialize in doing that.
Yesterday 08:27 PM
123pugsy Rusty has a shop in Florida, I believe, where he fixes a lot of rusty Mustangs.
Strips the rusty panels off completely and puts them back together. He posts on the SPI forum.


After checking a few of his builds, every time I see a Mustang project, it gets me wondering how deep the rust really is. They hide it well.
Yesterday 07:04 PM
idrivejunk Who is Rusty Gillis? The car at the shop has significant collision repair on the right side and extensive rust repair throughout, with both previously done improperly by an unknown hobbyist. Bryan is fixing it. Splitting the wheelhouse required to start.

I got one side finished-















Yesterday 01:36 PM
123pugsy Actually, looks worse, as the pic I posted has nice rockers....
Yesterday 01:35 PM
123pugsy Looks like a Rusty Gillis candidate ready to get peeled.....






Yesterday 12:54 PM
idrivejunk

Reckon I can take that door off now and finish. See slapper tracks in qtr epoxy, I was finally able to slap it with it fully connected so I spent 40 min or so confirming workability of the whole mess. Make that ex-mess.



On that driver's side, I was able to just turn the angled strip above the door and have it reach. Then I just started permanently tacking edge since thats fine for here. Passenger side also is on. A little grind, then reconfirm and slap as needed on panel faces for body flow, and both jambs can be finished with doors off and I'll know they will stay that way.



Then, um...

those rear fender bolt hole reinf strips gotta get plugged on. I ought to approach running board brackets. Theres that other tail light, too

Pugsy, I believe stew meat is all thats left on this pachyderm carcass. What say you? I didn't gain a pound. Thats three in a row, at least. Elephant meat is not the key to weight gain.

Better go hunt up another. Haven't seen the truck. Boss approved of the yesterday results. Footloose is finally in deep with the stuff for the fastback. I say that 1/8" plate gotta go. It ain't in line with the rest of the inner rocker. Quite the fresh live bait container, this is-





Yesterday 07:19 AM
idrivejunk If coffee is on our man cards, that space isn't punched on mine. Stuff tastes like brown crayon melted in hot water.

Smells great though. Sound of a percolator brings back memories, too.
Yesterday 04:39 AM
123pugsy
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Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
Order, order. Be seated. OK, for the record...

Be it known this day that I, IDJ, recind allegations made concerning Pugsy's card status due to suspicion on anti-clutch remarks. Undue bullying with previous knowledge of bum foot nullifies said accusations. Subject is free to resume projects regularly to exceed the level of manly seen here.

Hearing adjourned.


Just feeling my vocabulary today. Keep at it, Hoss.



Ya everyone....so there.....


I drinks my coffee black...the manly way...hey, where's the he-man smilie?
02-25-2020 10:00 PM
idrivejunk Order, order. Be seated. OK, for the record...

Be it known this day that I, IDJ, recind allegations made concerning Pugsy's card status due to suspicion on anti-clutch remarks. Undue bullying with previous knowledge of bum foot nullifies said accusations. Subject is free to resume projects regularly to exceed the level of manly seen here.

Hearing adjourned.


Just feeling my vocabulary today. Keep at it, Hoss.
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