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Today 09:11 PM
Too Many Projects Nice save on a piece of crap panel. By the R DOT tag, it appears it was a repro to boot...

I thought the Lexus was new enough to get a NICE cut off...
Today 08:29 PM
idrivejunk Amen, brother. Life is a bouncy ball.
Today 08:14 PM
123pugsy All crap usually comes to an end. You made it thru. Back to some good stuff.
Today 07:29 PM
idrivejunk By the way, the old boy with the green Dodge was in today. He is kinda excited about getting the black one, and the youngers were helping him along with their enthusiasm. They were talking about how those silver stripes might look on it.

I... feel a relax coming on. That week just hasn't been one of my favorites but I am past the dread so woohoo.
Today 07:22 PM
idrivejunk Just a reminder since it is currently relevant:

Bonding works on old cars, too. But it should never be used without also welding.

If there are any questions about where specifically its cool to glue, just ask. Anytime.

Here you go, this is about as plain as my repairs get. If you find a frill anywhere in these pics, you let me know.























Feeling relieved and anticipating dragging in late as usual, I felt this note to be appropriate-



How'd I do? This is probably going on a used car lot when done.
Today 06:58 PM
idrivejunk
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
Nice to be able to paste a car back together. Where were you Humpty Dumpty took that tumble?


It's looking like a good fit up.
Who do you think pushed him?

All the kings' mens' womens were lonely that day so I was in town making my rounds, taking care of business. It was like hitting the bars on opening weekend of modern rifle deer hunting season.

Fit up was a little south of perfect but where it counts, it went right into place. Best part of today was when boss man was laying out the work flow plan. Bryan was welding the last spots on the Pantera and passing it to Ken. After that, he switches to the Lexus and...

lo and behold, the A gets to start it's "month" ( figure holidays ) of sprinting to finish metal work. Glory be. I made it! Now, if I can just make that. In a month. I will have to conjure a time budget to be sure I get it to the point it needs to be.

Being as how I am fairly in sync with the swing of things up there, I'd bet that when my A month is over, the Impala will be in epoxy. Life begins anew and the cycle repeats in virtual perpetuity. The 51 Ford pickup man must be still gathering funds for labor.

Tell the truth, Pugsy... you found that run through of a salvage quarter intriguing didn't ya? Were you wondering how messed up the quarter gets? I hate doing those, its nasty. Once I had the panel cleaned up and got over the onfortunate dice roll with the LKQ part, it was as enjoyable as any thin metal crash fix.

I will quit yapping and your pics are ready but one more thing to mention...

Found myself still fussing over protecting the car at 11 AM. So I had to kinda get with it, to finish. But I don't think I hurt it.
Today 02:01 PM
123pugsy Nice to be able to paste a car back together. Where were you Humpty Dumpty took that tumble?


It's looking like a good fit up.
Today 01:03 PM
idrivejunk OK, brief walkthrough of glue prep & app.

The 8374 urethane seam sealer in the caulk gun is applied to the baffle edges to replace the expanding foam. First. The 8115 panel bonding adhesive has an hour work time and I didn't use a quarter of a cartridge.



I used a 36 grit twist lock disc to juuust barely clean and scratch mating surfaces then cleaned with solvent based W&G remover, then blew towel fibers away. Then I screwed on a fresh mixing nozzle and laid beads.







Came back with a slice of plastic spreader and made that into a layer, being sure to cover all the bare metal. Experience tells me how big the bead needs to be to neatly cover the flanges-





Then repeat the beads. Tending toward staggering the beads from car side to panel side. One side go near the inside edge of flange and to the outside on the other-





You with me so far? Good. That was it! Stick it and ger the clamps out-



I opted for open butt welds (no backer) and figure I can handle these-



This is just how those turned out after marking with the drill then trimming. No fine tuning but it will get a little as I go, welding-



Yesterday 06:31 PM
idrivejunk
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
Awesome. Pain in the arse, I'm sure, but awesome.
Well, thank you Pugsy. No mistaking it, even clean late model collision repair sucks. Pays a helluva lot better though.

Last pic was with the panel just shoved on there, nothing holding it. These are with it screwed on.







I had to think back for a moment to remember how to trim at the dogleg joint. Drill through overlapped panel to original, connect dots with cut. Trim top panel at that line, then trim on top of it on bottom panel. Weld gaps are happy. Fit is good with two unsubstantial exceptions at front of quarter. Body belt line sits a smidge low and the previous section job is caved a little. Both are mud fudge.

I am a few plug weld holes and a couple bomb fog spots away from ready to clean then bond. Window bed, wheel opening, and front edge (except at striker reinf) of the quarter will be glued, the rest is welding.



Had there been another half hour to work, I'd have stuck it today.



I bet I might could interest one or two of you with a brief detailing of the adhesive application, so I will make an effort to include that.

I am contemplating use of plug welded backing plates or sleeves or whatever word you use for those. At the butt joints. At the sail panel to keep fire off the baffle below, and on the wide section of the dogleg jamb because while the weld gap or lack thereof is fine, the contour makes a ditch. Lots of stamped tension in the steel there to warp. Plus it would keep sparks and rust fuel out of the rocker corner.
Yesterday 04:19 PM
123pugsy Awesome. Pain in the arse, I'm sure, but awesome.
Yesterday 12:39 PM
idrivejunk























Yesterday 07:34 AM
idrivejunk In case it eluded those of you who have not done junkyard quarter replacements:

Since the existing salvage panel is a replacement quarter, none of the existing welds can be drilled loose. Think about that. The added labor is ridiculous but by default unacknowledged. Bodymen know there is no such thing as a happy bodyman cutting a junkyard quarter loose. Using salvaged weld on panels is dumb enough but if it is found to be a previously replaced panel, a stronger word is needed.
12-03-2019 09:45 PM
idrivejunk Well. All of the above was a fine waste of effort, wasn't it? FML

I am having technical difficulties plus mind drama. It is true however, that this is the lowest I have ever stooped down to on a customer car. Nobody is to blame, this is the naturé of doing rebuilders and working out of a junkyard only. In my history, I have done one junkyard quarter. Reluctantly, at a new job where I didn't stay. Next time I got asked, I quit. I regard the request as a naive insult. Still do, but I have done it a time or two for my current boss. I would like to get my hands on the individual who first approved the use of weld-on salvage parts for insurance work. That was an idiot move and the industry is stuck with it.

I thought all that was behind me. Its not, its today.

Got the quarter off and flanges clean-











Whats the big baby bellyaching for this time, huh? I know.

Found this-



Followed it-





I'm not going to try to explain that. Those chicken blank mother blankers! In this post's pics, you can see for yourself. If you don't see and understand... what are you doing here? Nuf sed. I believe at quitting time I was close to separating the piece of **** from the piece of junk. I was beginning to get rough with it, since an entire afternoon of cutoff wheel and toxic smoke didn't even get me that far. I think this may be the time to spitefully and mercilessly milk a job. Like keep it from the painter until new year's. It would only amount to returning fire.
12-03-2019 06:41 PM
idrivejunk Today I hit the low point in 18 years of occupation bodyman.
12-02-2019 08:33 PM
idrivejunk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
It's all related to "what did you work on today ?"

Some people DO think those Dodge trucks are hot rods...
Not 1998 ones.

Fullsize short beds can look the part but who you kidding? I had a stock 76 with 454, ran about like a stock 305 or 350 car. Twice the gas though so didn't have that one long. Had a long 82 with a six... also a gas hog. No matter if they are giving them away, I can't afford that. Until that changes, two and a half tons to tote a guy ain't for this one. But some of other peoples' old, loud trucks are indeed wicked.

I could name a few.
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