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Yesterday 06:31 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
Awesome. Pain in the arse, I'm sure, but awesome.
Well, thank you Pugsy. No mistaking it, even clean late model collision repair sucks. Pays a helluva lot better though.

Last pic was with the panel just shoved on there, nothing holding it. These are with it screwed on.







I had to think back for a moment to remember how to trim at the dogleg joint. Drill through overlapped panel to original, connect dots with cut. Trim top panel at that line, then trim on top of it on bottom panel. Weld gaps are happy. Fit is good with two unsubstantial exceptions at front of quarter. Body belt line sits a smidge low and the previous section job is caved a little. Both are mud fudge.

I am a few plug weld holes and a couple bomb fog spots away from ready to clean then bond. Window bed, wheel opening, and front edge (except at striker reinf) of the quarter will be glued, the rest is welding.



Had there been another half hour to work, I'd have stuck it today.



I bet I might could interest one or two of you with a brief detailing of the adhesive application, so I will make an effort to include that.

I am contemplating use of plug welded backing plates or sleeves or whatever word you use for those. At the butt joints. At the sail panel to keep fire off the baffle below, and on the wide section of the dogleg jamb because while the weld gap or lack thereof is fine, the contour makes a ditch. Lots of stamped tension in the steel there to warp. Plus it would keep sparks and rust fuel out of the rocker corner.
Yesterday 04:19 PM
123pugsy Awesome. Pain in the arse, I'm sure, but awesome.
Yesterday 12:39 PM
idrivejunk























Yesterday 07:34 AM
idrivejunk In case it eluded those of you who have not done junkyard quarter replacements:

Since the existing salvage panel is a replacement quarter, none of the existing welds can be drilled loose. Think about that. The added labor is ridiculous but by default unacknowledged. Bodymen know there is no such thing as a happy bodyman cutting a junkyard quarter loose. Using salvaged weld on panels is dumb enough but if it is found to be a previously replaced panel, a stronger word is needed.
12-03-2019 09:45 PM
idrivejunk Well. All of the above was a fine waste of effort, wasn't it? FML

I am having technical difficulties plus mind drama. It is true however, that this is the lowest I have ever stooped down to on a customer car. Nobody is to blame, this is the naturé of doing rebuilders and working out of a junkyard only. In my history, I have done one junkyard quarter. Reluctantly, at a new job where I didn't stay. Next time I got asked, I quit. I regard the request as a naive insult. Still do, but I have done it a time or two for my current boss. I would like to get my hands on the individual who first approved the use of weld-on salvage parts for insurance work. That was an idiot move and the industry is stuck with it.

I thought all that was behind me. Its not, its today.

Got the quarter off and flanges clean-











Whats the big baby bellyaching for this time, huh? I know.

Found this-



Followed it-





I'm not going to try to explain that. Those chicken blank mother blankers! In this post's pics, you can see for yourself. If you don't see and understand... what are you doing here? Nuf sed. I believe at quitting time I was close to separating the piece of **** from the piece of junk. I was beginning to get rough with it, since an entire afternoon of cutoff wheel and toxic smoke didn't even get me that far. I think this may be the time to spitefully and mercilessly milk a job. Like keep it from the painter until new year's. It would only amount to returning fire.
12-03-2019 06:41 PM
idrivejunk Today I hit the low point in 18 years of occupation bodyman.
12-02-2019 08:33 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
It's all related to "what did you work on today ?"

Some people DO think those Dodge trucks are hot rods...
Not 1998 ones.

Fullsize short beds can look the part but who you kidding? I had a stock 76 with 454, ran about like a stock 305 or 350 car. Twice the gas though so didn't have that one long. Had a long 82 with a six... also a gas hog. No matter if they are giving them away, I can't afford that. Until that changes, two and a half tons to tote a guy ain't for this one. But some of other peoples' old, loud trucks are indeed wicked.

I could name a few.
12-02-2019 08:22 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post




And my house stuff was hot rod? Ha....
Its my thread but not my forum and while I like to adhere to forum guidelines, I also have my own guiding light and its name is relevance. For example if I sold out of the Grand Prix business, that would draw the curtain on my activity in that community. And so forth. This thread is too heavy to piggyback the daily thread where I myself posted a cat picture that I drew recently.

Like being at a musclecar show when a bunch of ricers cruise through being annoying, this stuff is like booking Cap'n Bringdown and the Buzzkillers to play a Model A party. You walk in then go aw, man. Bunk.

Maybe thats just me, but it has been a constant. I'll keep showing it but maybe I could take the soccer mommy car to the everybody thread and I'd feel better. Gary says things to remind me the A isn't as far away as it seems. I am getting to be like youtube... pause me too long and you may have to refresh then start over from the beginning.
12-02-2019 08:05 PM
idrivejunk As they often do, my reply turned wordy. I'm a working man fixing autos though, so. Been a few days sans car talk. So how 'bout let's just call it "news-y" instead.

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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
That frame needs a strong tower and locked on a rack to pull that kink out, probably with heat too. I'm amazed you haven't pulled it off the jack stands yet.
Hopefully, they will realize the truck needs to go to a frame shop and you can get back on the Lexus ? Can't remember, but that quarter looks like a nice piece..
I worked on the Jeep frame today..
T'aint worth it when a frame is $600 and a truck is $2500 and a repair blows ten grand right off the bat. They have a black one found upn'Missourri (thats one word here) and I bet he swaps his wheels and tires to it and just goes on. The green S/ST only had liability on it, and its a '98 at 170K. But hell, the console still has plenty of beer in it! My wish is that the EFI 360 Magnum with OD auto trans finds a home in a fat fender or fin era street machine / rod. Seems appropriate, if not swapped into the next truck. I told Gary buy him a set of decals and tell him to come and get it, and that would be a reasonably good outcome on a wreck like this. Only a small dollar loss, not a drawn out POS nightmare to run the keeper employees off.

Speaking of which, Mike was riding herd over Jack, Stan, and their clan. Keeping them corralled during pulling so truck no fall. I came in not having been advised of alternate day plans and it was mid morning before I found out boss had a newfound Pantera rust hole for me instead. Since I was already "in that rythym" he let me rip on the Ram. It was all cued up in my head when I hit the door and I didn't ask nobody nuthin. Wondered why Mike looked lost. I was doing his task and appeared to have a plan. At some point he walked up and said "Um.". My snappy retort without hesitation was: "We didn't order any um." which is my favorite for use on softspoken types. Ha. Apparently when I walked in, he was sizing it up to do more pulling. Now I was the confusious one.

He eventually asked how he could help and boy was I glad because its a sadistic dance for one man. Quarter and tail light for the Lexy showed up during pulling. Oh, and... while I had a worm's eye view I found where the bolt that ripped early on, or the chain that took flight when it did... ricocheted. Chain rash on bottom of right door near front. Like iron fisted knuckle dents (small, shallow, rounded, about a handful of them). Oh well. Hood had already hurt that door.

BTW & FYI, theres no gauge on the floor tower. All I know is I pulled it two full ram strokes and at full pull never had it moved farther than 2". The front of the frame, that is. Back to the left side. If 2" movement equals 3/4" that stays, I would have to pull the front of the frame about a foot and a half... a foot past straight to have it relax straight. It damn sure wouldn't be straight if I did that, now would it? Logic prevails. Especially when theres no good way to quantify what straight is!

This looks like a good spot, between paragraphs, to insert an unpopular opinion. Like putting your dog's pill in hamburger... Fire is not required for proper collision repair. Exhaust removal is the only place I believe open flame potentially has in an auto repair shop.

In conclusion, about the pulling... IMHO with the right equipment I would have spent half the time, got twice the results, banged my bones around less wallering around on concrete and doing heavy lifting... and... in my short of humble opinion the result would be the same. Reminds me of the whole correct but can't prove it mental thing which is a big part of the mind issues I still carry today from wrecks. Biggest thing I ever got fed up with doing collision repair overall, aside from the obvious, was having to prove myself from dadgum scratch at each and every new place I worked. I must reek of BS. Nobody nowhere that I ever knew among the powers that be is willing to trust any bodyman's intuition. Unless of course he gives the desired answer when asked "Can you fix it?"

The japanese SUV junkyard part looks alright, yep. "All gravy now" I am told. I miss the A. Footloose is plugging up the Pantera rocker hole that was obscured by undercoat.

I bet you made Dave real happy today. All gravy now! He may see a return on his investment soon.
12-02-2019 05:44 PM
Too Many Projects
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Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
No connection to rodding.

Ram guy is going to buy another truck, black, for $2,500. "I didn't know it was that bad." was all I needed to hear. Dismissed!
It's all related to "what did you work on today ?"

Some people DO think those Dodge trucks are hot rods...
12-02-2019 05:22 PM
123pugsy
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Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
No connection to rodding.

Ram guy is going to buy another truck, black, for $2,500. "I didn't know it was that bad." was all I needed to hear. Dismissed!




And my house stuff was hot rod? Ha....
12-02-2019 05:15 PM
Too Many Projects That frame needs a strong tower and locked on a rack to pull that kink out, probably with heat too. I'm amazed you haven't pulled it off the jack stands yet.
Hopefully, they will realize the truck needs to go to a frame shop and you can get back on the Lexus ? Can't remember, but that quarter looks like a nice piece..
I worked on the Jeep frame today..
12-02-2019 05:10 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by 123pugsy View Post
Yep, why not? They're all about fixin up autos.
No connection to rodding.

Ram guy is going to buy another truck, black, for $2,500. "I didn't know it was that bad." was all I needed to hear. Dismissed!
12-02-2019 03:25 PM
123pugsy
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Originally Posted by idrivejunk View Post
It never ceases to amaze me how people think I lie to them about fixing vehicles. Cost somebody a couple days labor just to not believe my experience based opinion. And here we are.

Another 3/4" was gained but damage began at a block point as the chain began to crush the boxed rail. I may have gotten my point across.

Pulled the right rail with chain over the left-

Then just the left rail after the kink gave a smidge-

Kink now-

Spot where rail is caving in-

My quarter is here-

Are these jobs of interest to anyone?

Yep, why not? They're all about fixin up autos.
12-02-2019 12:41 PM
idrivejunk It never ceases to amaze me how people think I lie to them about fixing vehicles. Cost somebody a couple days labor just to not believe my experience based opinion. And here we are.

Another 3/4" was gained but damage began at a block point as the chain began to crush the boxed rail. I may have gotten my point across.

Pulled the right rail with chain over the left-






Then just the left rail after the kink gave a smidge-



Kink now-



Spot where rail is caving in-



My quarter is here-



Are these jobs of interest to anyone?
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