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09-12-2018 09:36 PM
adantessr My 23 T-bucket is stiff in the front, and could stand to have a leaf or two removed. But I'm having too much back trouble to bother with it. It is up for sale. But on the other hand it handles like it's on rails. 111-1/2 " wheelbase length. I've had it over 120 mph with no handling problems. 10 psi in the rear tires and 15 psi in the front. Making sure the shocks are in mid travel, standing still, is very essential to proper handling and ride quality.

Any one interested, can take a look at my bucket on Charleston WV Craigslist.
09-12-2018 08:45 PM
bubbamace I'm going to try the removal of that front spring and remove a couple of those leafs. That will be a good start. Thanks, again.
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Ive had a few buckets over the years, and one in particular handled like a pig on ice skates. Eventually sold it and new owner also hated the ride. Car had the "best of everything" in the front end and I figured it should have ridden pretty well.

A couple of owners later, I caught up with the car again. New owner said it was brutal on bumpy roads so he took it to a dirt track speedway guy to see if it could get sorted. Speedway guy took it for a vigourous drive and came back, removed the front spring and deleted a couple of leaves and fitted it back up again.

He reckons it rides like its on rails now. I didnt travel in it so cant personally verify the result, but it might be worth looking at.

And regarding the front shocks, instead of changing to taller mounts, you may be able to find shorter shocks to avoid bottoming out. We attached cable ties to the shaft of the shocks on one bucket and took it for a drive to see how much work the shock was doing and to see if it was bottoming out. Its a simple way to check for movement.
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09-12-2018 08:41 PM
bubbamace
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If you're worried about scrub line, pull a string from the bottom of the front wheel rim to the opposite rear wheel rim and see if any suspension components hit the string. This will tell you if you would be in trouble if you got multiple flats.
In my opinion, these small light cars don't ride worth a darn. I've got a dropped axle car with the correct shackle angles (not binding) and the shocks are not bottoming out and the front is sorted out pretty well, it rides great on the freeway, but once you hit the crappy back roads, the ride can be quite harsh. As far as the rear, Ive got the longest lightest coilover springs that will do the job. The rear rides pretty nice considering it's a big tire car, I pretty much sit right over the rear axle. So, in my experience, they ride a bit on the harsh unless on a nice smooth paved road. Just my two cents...

Keith
Thanks, Keith. Honestly, I'm afraid to go on the freeway. I put seat belts in this thing so I don't go flying out when I hit a bump. LOL . . . AND YOU THINK I'M KIDDING.

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09-12-2018 06:10 PM
RWENUTS
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Thanks, RWENUTS. You and the rest of the guys believe the front shocks are the problem Im going to look at these, the angle and the length and attempt to fix them. I really think I should think about raising the whole car. Its too low and I think that limits the suspension.
I donít know about your shocks but your shackle angle is the problem. When the spring compresses it gets longer and the shackles bind up solid. Shackles are supposed to be at 45 degrees so they donít bind when they flex closer to vertical.
09-12-2018 06:00 PM
Hot Rod Todd Ive had a few buckets over the years, and one in particular handled like a pig on ice skates. Eventually sold it and new owner also hated the ride. Car had the "best of everything" in the front end and I figured it should have ridden pretty well.

A couple of owners later, I caught up with the car again. New owner said it was brutal on bumpy roads so he took it to a dirt track speedway guy to see if it could get sorted. Speedway guy took it for a vigourous drive and came back, removed the front spring and deleted a couple of leaves and fitted it back up again.

He reckons it rides like its on rails now. I didnt travel in it so cant personally verify the result, but it might be worth looking at.

And regarding the front shocks, instead of changing to taller mounts, you may be able to find shorter shocks to avoid bottoming out. We attached cable ties to the shaft of the shocks on one bucket and took it for a drive to see how much work the shock was doing and to see if it was bottoming out. Its a simple way to check for movement.
09-11-2018 10:22 PM
blwn31 If you're worried about scrub line, pull a string from the bottom of the front wheel rim to the opposite rear wheel rim and see if any suspension components hit the string. This will tell you if you would be in trouble if you got multiple flats.
In my opinion, these small light cars don't ride worth a darn. I've got a dropped axle car with the correct shackle angles (not binding) and the shocks are not bottoming out and the front is sorted out pretty well, it rides great on the freeway, but once you hit the crappy back roads, the ride can be quite harsh. As far as the rear, Ive got the longest lightest coilover springs that will do the job. The rear rides pretty nice considering it's a big tire car, I pretty much sit right over the rear axle. So, in my experience, they ride a bit on the harsh unless on a nice smooth paved road. Just my two cents...

Keith
09-11-2018 07:29 PM
bubbamace
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Originally Posted by RWENUTS View Post
Your spring shackles are at the wrong angle.
Yours are almost vertical when they should be at a 45 degree angle.
Strange type of coil overs on the back.
Thanks, RWENUTS. You and the rest of the guys believe the front shocks are the problem Im going to look at these, the angle and the length and attempt to fix them. I really think I should think about raising the whole car. Its too low and I think that limits the suspension.
09-11-2018 07:23 PM
bubbamace
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front shocks look really short, disconnect them and go for a ride
you may bounce all over but it will probably tell you the shocks are bottoming out
Thanks, Ogre. It looks like most of you think the front shocks are too short and possible at a wrong angle. I'm going to fix this and lower the PSI in the tires again. By the way, nice truck !
09-11-2018 07:14 PM
bubbamace Thanks, delawarebill. I'll try to lengthen the shocks by changing the supports. Thanks again for the idea. Bubba
09-11-2018 12:40 PM
delawarebill
front shocks and pressure

looking at your front shocks u really need to redo that top support so the shock is mid way standing still. u hit a bump and it'll bottom out for sure. as for pressure, buckets don't need a ton of pressure. i think i was in the 10 to 15# area on rears. but mine were 20+ inchs wide.. can't remember now.
09-11-2018 11:33 AM
RWENUTS Your spring shackles are at the wrong angle.
Yours are almost vertical when they should be at a 45 degree angle.
Strange type of coil overs on the back.
09-11-2018 09:54 AM
ogre front shocks look really short, disconnect them and go for a ride
you may bounce all over but it will probably tell you the shocks are bottoming out
09-10-2018 07:55 PM
bubbamace I'll have to try less air in the tires. I think the rears are either 10 or 12 " wide. The car weighs about 1800 lbs with me in it. The tires are 14s in the front and 15s in the rear.
09-10-2018 07:51 PM
bubbamace I don't see any evidence of the suspension hitting the frame or body. I did have to correct the angle of the front shocks when I first got the car because they were making contact with another part of the suspension and almost had made a hole in both shocks. I also added the steering stabilizer which really helped tighten up the steering. Here are a few more pictures of the suspension.
09-10-2018 07:40 PM
bubbamace I'm not worried about tire wear. I was more worried about not having enough air to avoid a flat while out on the road.
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