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Yesterday 06:32 PM
123pugsy That's looking good even with only one side polished.


Full Brazilian, ha......
Yesterday 05:35 PM
idrivejunk












Yesterday 05:29 PM
idrivejunk Not that I know of. I had not heard of a 90 kind. Next time I catch Mike, I'll ask just in case.

Going for a full Brazilian firewall are ye?

Speaking of other metals, I got asked about fixing a smashed cab corner from jacknifing a fifth wheel... on an aluminum Ford truck today. I had to tell the boss sorry, no knowledge. If theres access, I can push out on it but it looked bad bad in the pic. Right at the roof gutter and window corner.

Polishing, ha. I thought I was about to read an ethnic joke for a sec.

Be that as it may...

I gotta have Pantera all done Monday at lunch, so the plan goes. Next week is a three dayer.

Stand by for the early edition.
Yesterday 04:14 PM
123pugsy Good stuff Matt. It's easier to make more pieces. I find polishing easier than trying to make complex panels in one piece.
Edit: :polishing" is the stainless side of me. Dressing welds is probably correct.

In your shop, does there happen to be a 90 under dash brake booster/master currently for any projects on hand?
I could really use some dimensioning help to see if I can squeeze one of them and the AC unit under the dash.
Yesterday 12:51 PM
idrivejunk
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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects View Post
For the most part, not commenting isn't because we don't want to participate, but that you are way over our heads with the level of work you do and really don't have anything constructive to say. I do see your point about silence equaling no interest, but I don't believe that applies, we just don't want to clutter the thread with nonsense...
Thank you sir and I'll mash the button later.

I invite nonsense. You've heard me complain about everything except that. Mostly I nonsense up other peoples' threads.
Yesterday 12:45 PM
idrivejunk I wasn't whipping the interest horse this time, I just wish thoughts flowed more freely. I am adjusting to changing perceptions of everybody else but am just me, a face in a crowd who would rather be eye to eye level with everybody. No big whoop.

Heres a couple things that brought you to mind-



Drivetrain is this is being scrapped but it drove right in-





Don't hate... yes that is a cream puff and it is beautiful outside today.

This thing... is all over but the crying. Leastwise, pretty the much. Visited with it's owner first thing this morning and he is very, very pleased.









Yesterday 07:51 AM
Too Many Projects For the most part, not commenting isn't because we don't want to participate, but that you are way over our heads with the level of work you do and really don't have anything constructive to say. I do see your point about silence equaling no interest, but I don't believe that applies, we just don't want to clutter the thread with nonsense...
Yesterday 07:09 AM
idrivejunk
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Just visualizing my own experience with really odd shapes like that from the past. I have attempted to make a patch from 1 piece and ended up with multiple parts before I was done too, so may as well just start with them..
I didn't comment on the exhaust pipe idea last night, but that could have been a good place to start with the tubes. Oh well, you got a handle on it now.
I worked with Dave at Centerline today and cut off 5 feet of frame from under a Jeep...

Oh boy, I bet that feels like work. Are you working in a flat stall or up on a machine? I always ran from rebuilders, they get some strange notions in their heads.

I don't know why for most folks its like pulling a tooth to get them to speak their constructive thoughts either. Seems like a good thing, sharing and learning. The world just wants to recieve and never help. Sounds like kids, don't it?
11-18-2019 09:52 PM
Too Many Projects
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You were not far from right, were ya? You must have hauled something down el camino dorado before.
Just visualizing my own experience with really odd shapes like that from the past. I have attempted to make a patch from 1 piece and ended up with multiple parts before I was done too, so may as well just start with them..
I didn't comment on the exhaust pipe idea last night, but that could have been a good place to start with the tubes. Oh well, you got a handle on it now.
I worked with Dave at Centerline today and cut off 5 feet of frame from under a Jeep...
11-18-2019 08:46 PM
idrivejunk
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The painter being able to "hear" the tones and use them in proper sequence to make a tune is way cool. I took guitar lessons for 6 years when I was young and played it well, by music sheet, but never had the ability to play "by ear". I finally found out years later, that I have had a high frequency tone deafness since infancy and am unable to hear most notes in the high range. Now days, I don't hear much of anything, according to my wife..

As for the patch, maybe fab the rounded sides with the side flanges separately and fill in the center with a, relatively, flat section and the frame flange at the bottom to butt weld in.. ??

You were not far from right, were ya? You must have hauled something down el camino dorado before.
11-18-2019 08:43 PM
idrivejunk
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I was thinking you might do the tubes separate but liked how ya were able to make the 2 shapes for them so quick. At my level of skill, I woulda ripped into two tunnels on the flat center section and try to do the pie-for-a-knee bends then weld the flats together again. (of course this repair is outta my league, but I figured I would add my 2 cents worth).

When you publish the textbook, just map out the direction the road took you, as that was part of your plan all along.

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Intuition just has to take over. Your method was right up there with the rest of the ideas but I just couldn't bring myself to do welds on every bend. We are at five pieces now, if we don't count the brief time during which the bend sides were halved because I didn't leave a big enough shred to hold through all the bending.

I am OK with how its going. By the way, Mike was fitting the sedan delivery rear door today. The upper hinge mount area flexes within the skin. Mike was unraveling the history and setting things straight all day and at day's end gaps were workable. But he had to cut welds and separate top skin from bottom, as they had been cut once before, to achieve that. Whew! Never got any replacement bodymen. Longhair is long gone and the busted skull guy is recovering, I presume.
11-18-2019 08:10 PM
gegcorp2012 I was thinking you might do the tubes separate but liked how ya were able to make the 2 shapes for them so quick. At my level of skill, I woulda ripped into two tunnels on the flat center section and try to do the pie-for-a-knee bends then weld the flats together again. (of course this repair is outta my league, but I figured I would add my 2 cents worth).

When you publish the textbook, just map out the direction the road took you, as that was part of your plan all along.

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11-18-2019 07:42 PM
idrivejunk Starting you off with this pic of what was where, there where I'm working-




Alright, so I made a big camel hump wind chime, now what?

Um um, these humps don't match worth a crap. Whats the chances of nailing the outside hump radiuses and taper AND putting a bend in the middle across all of it plus have the center section sit flat along with the side flanges. All at once.

Fat, I figure.

Naw, who am I kidding? Boy its tempting to chop across just the humps, crack it open like a Zippo and fill in the "kneecaps". How you gonna make those look good?

If I leave a shred of kneecap and slice the flange side to bend the whole piece, I get overlap instead of patch but its gonna suck to do AND look bad. Hmm.

Neither solution addresses the side flanges' depths or assures any actual or visual uniformity in the humps because hell, the bottom gets mashed flat but stays the same width.

One piece theory got pitched over the fence.

Well... whatcha gonna do? Tick, tock.


If I cut down the center of the face of each hump, I can gain control-



First, I tried jaws. Stretcher, stomping the hump flat and trying to bend the short flange by working the long side. Nope, too far from the brake bend.

Then I tried being mean to the knee with the E wheel. Did some but really I was just making mud. Halt! Must cut.

In the above pic, the left and right have been cut, bent, tacked and with the side flanges butted and tacked for symmetry referencing a template made from the right side. The right end and center were then set aside. Now working the left end only.

A centered "T" shaped cut along the side flange bend allowed the top and bottom ends to be fitted to the rail and apron panel (I'll call it that) with the side flange hanging loose, partially sliced off lengthwise and cut in the middle.

So I just held the part up there, bent the dangly side flanges to meet rail, and tacked them barely, near the outer ends. Carefully set part down and fill the half inch gap between flange ends at the T cut.

Inserted a flat scrap between flange and hump, as a straight side for the knee area. Mark at flange and hump, trim, tack in. Bend / tweak / clamp and thats what I have here... Left side done, right side not.



And I am well on my way. With the three sections fitted and attached, the overlaps or gaps on the humps can be corrected, uniformed... made pleasant... with the part clamped and screwed. Then it can be tacked and welding completed off the car and corrosion protection will have a sporting chance. Boy am I glad I only gotta make one of these!





I can't think of a scenario which better exemplifies the thing I like to say about going where it leads me. Fabrication is like going to Oz every day. Just gotta go where el camino dorado does. I can see the castle from here. When all the flying monkeys were attacking, I made a slip with a cutoff wheel and caught a 1/4" long nip in a glove. Those are always like a connonball across the bow. Not this time. I bled juuust a little and it stopped by the time I dressed it. Tippy tip o my left third finger. The relief was greater than any pain, that thats all it was. You guys know.

All thats left is to execute. Plan locked. I didn't really see this method coming. Did you?
11-18-2019 12:42 PM
idrivejunk Thanks.









I didn't make a pattern, just taped across the right side at the deepest point and marked the tape and cut a piece Transferred marks to metal, made four bends in the brake. Tipped the rounded areas with the English wheel to get a start. 15 minutes in, I had this-



Maybe another 15 at the vise doing stuffs-



Here I sit, having lunch on my very own century old, outweighs me anvil "with" Grandpa. Making car parts.



11-18-2019 09:16 AM
123pugsy
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How would you make it?

Three pieces at least. The tubular shape I believe can be shrunk to create the turns. But, way too much time.
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