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Old 07-04-2019, 01:28 AM
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Tell me about side pipes on hot rods!

I'm having problems with exhaust smell when driving my 34 roadster high boy with the roof off.
I'm pretty sure it's from the turbulence behind the car, as there are no signs of exhaust leak under the car or in the engine compartment.
I've also been told that this is a vell known problem.

Have changed to turn down tips, but it's still very noticeable.
37 Ford tail lights on the rear corners make limited space for a "Trans Am end tip" solution.
Maybe a "SUV end tip" solution behind the rear wheels would work, but wouldn't be very nice, I think...

So maybe I should try side pipes? How are they in use?

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What I have in mind is black coated front bend/side pipe/rear turnout for a "bad" look, but with chrome shields.
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I don't recall seeing side pipes since the early 70's. Yes the guards are a must, and even then, don't wear shorts!
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It's difficult to advise you without a visual. Can you take several photos of the rear and side rear of the car? It seems that I answered this question in the past, explaining that air from underneath the car will push up as soon as it sees a low pressure area, taking exhaust gases with it. I seem to remember advising a flat sheet metal plate between the bottom of the body and the pipes, extending out past the pipe ends. I really need pics to help you figure this out. Side pipes are not the answer in my opinion.

Chevrolet had somewhat the same problem with station wagons/SUV's. The fumes would curl up and blow into the rear window when it was open. The problem was pretty much cured with exhaust tips that extended the end of the pipes into a 90 degree turn out to the sides of the car where the airflow down the side of the car could carry them away without allowing them to reach the interior of the car.

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I like em, have them on mine and the wife's truck. Had them on a 67 Vet I bought with combat pay 68.

The only side pipes I got tattooed from were drag pipes from a Harley.

I think they say HotRod in a very loud voice...

Two styles shown, sprit car and fender well headers I modified on the truck.

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Thanks for your inputs. Unfortunately I haven't any photos right now.
Had a closer look last night, and it migth be enough space for some kind of corner exits behind the rear wheels.

On the other hand, a couple of black "AC Cobra-looking" side pipes with chrome heat shields......
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Pep, they do look nice without the guards! Is there any muffler action going on in there or is it LOUD?
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Thanks for your inputs. Unfortunately I haven't any photos right now.
Had a closer look last night, and it migth be enough space for some kind of corner exits behind the rear wheels.

On the other hand, a couple of black "AC Cobra-looking" side pipes with chrome heat shields......

Black would fit the car very nicely , some info to chew on below

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Search?query=side+pipes

@Tony,

HotRod Loud was a reference to the static appeal of the side pipes.

Max flow, no restriction, one of the wonders of GA, no hassle.


A correction, misspoke the truck headers are modified wheel well pipes commonly found on a 55-56 gasser.





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Tennessee Code 55-9-202. Mufflers — Muffler cutouts prohibited — Penalty Current as of: 2010 | Check for updates | Other versions

(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on any road, street or highway unless the motor vehicle is equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and annoying smoke.


Hmm, annoying smoke reducing mufflers?


The county I live in I could probably get away without mufflers. They drive all kinds of crap on the roads here like with smashed windshields right in the drivers face. From what I've seen, the local cops in the city I'm just outside of only care about drugs and it almost always is young people pulled over. Then we have the county sheriffs, which are real sheriffs, not like a PA sheriff. Not sure who they go after, probably more crackheads. Then the state troopers who, well, you never want to mess with the state troopers! I've seen enough beat up vehicles with no muffler not get pulled over, but I don't know about a hot rod?
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Here's a photo of how it is now:

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i like the side pipe too

just keep the fairly close to body so u don't hit them with your calf what getting out.. here's mine..
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just keep the fairly close to body so u don't hit them with your calf what getting out.. here's mine..

Wonder how that is done? The distance off the car body is built into the sprint car style header. And set/determined by tube length off the heads.

The only option is the length of the side pipe. Just to add the burned leg and side pipes. Pretty much just a matter of common sense. Or a short person with stubby legs, might have a problem, they should avoid side pipes.
LMAO !!

Anyone that drives them regularly knows the heat beyond the collector. Not what the Rodney Dangerfield's of the world claim it to be.

That set would have looked much better in chrome. Those coating dull and wear out like every heat header paint made.

Believe me I write that with proven knowledge, will chrome blue?

Sure in time, however past the real hot spots, the rest of the header and side pip assembly remain chrome, un like the coating that fail over the whole.

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Pep, are you making fun of my short stubby legs? That's not nice of you!
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I'll rebuild the rear part of my exhauts system first, to see if that helps.
Adding side pipes would be a lot of tayloring, because I don't want to cut holes in my hood sides for them.
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Chrome, even blue chrome looks better than almost new aluminum/ceramic coatings. Any I've seen anyway. My headers look like shtt. Someday I may spring for a set that actually fit without hammering on them. And in a tight fit, chrome resists scratching a lot better than the ceramic.
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