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Old 09-07-2019, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by S10xGN View Post
The weight is there because of all kinds of Gov't mandated requirements like structural crash protection, air bags, electronics up the wazoo for fuel mileage, and comfort stuff like A/C and plush interiors. Don't think most of us would be digging a stripped out $40k car, I know I wouldn't...

The Challenger has a lower safety record than the Mustang, but it weighs (on average) about 500 lbs more.

Sometimes I think American muscle cars should be outsourced to Volvo, and have Volvo build the structure, then just put in the American power.

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Buy a Hellcat

Buy a Hellcat and you don't have to worry about the weight!
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Originally Posted by FlamesOfFire99 View Post
that's interesting. I didn't know you could do cylinder deactivation (whatever that is) and drive on the expressway.
Cylinder deactivation has never really worked. The cylinders are under increased wear and the parts that control the valves are prone to failure. More of an emissions thing then a mileage thing.

Small 1 cylinder engine powering a generator to fill a battery pack to drive dual electric motors will give you more mileage, range, and power then any type of magic hat trick with a internal combustion engine.

Simple fact is that internal combustion is stuck at below 25% efficiency. It is just how it is.

They could build the 1 cylinder hybrid tomorrow that would smoke a Hellcat and get 60+ mpg. But the demand and cheap batteries are not here yet. Once gas hits $5 a gallon things might change.
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I do like the look of the Challenger, however before I retired, we had a fleet of V8 hemi Chargers. I don't remember a day that at least one wasn't broke down. These were so unreliable and maintenance intensive that when It came time to purchase new fleet vehicles, Mopar was not on the list. (Just replacing the fuel pump was an all day nightmare). Also, every vehicle transmissions leaked. Whomever designed this should have their *** beat. For the next fleet cycle, we went with Ford, not much better, but not so labor intensive. .

I chuckled at the comment about having Volvo's with American drivetrain. I was at the Goodguy's hotrod show at Puyallup WA when I saw a 2 door Volvo, Older Volvo, I think it was 240 but it had a supercharged LS and 6 speed. It looked stock from the exterior But I bet it would be a hoot to drive. It was a perfect sleeper.
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Originally Posted by BadWally View Post
I do like the look of the Challenger,
They look good... until you see one parked next to an original Challenger. Then they look morbidly obese.

Does this *** make my car look big?

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