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Old 02-21-2008, 04:53 PM
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You can buy a very good Lincoln MIG for $600.00.

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Add a welding bottle, cart, gloves, helmet and a 10 lb spool to that Lincoln and you spent $1000-1200.
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Mine came with a shield,and cart.$600.00 dollars.I just had to rent my bottle,And the gloves was $8.00 dollars. And a roll of wire was $9.00 dollars,
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Not bad. Renting bottles here is expensive. After 4-5 fills you might as well have bought one. So I'm an ownership guy. Then again I weld for a living.
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Not bad. Renting bottles here is expensive. After 4-5 fills you might as well have bought one. So I'm an ownership guy. Then again I weld for a living.
Spare a thought for those of us in Australia.. there's only 2 places to buy your gas.. and both of them will only fill their own cylinders that you rent from them. I have Oxy, Acetylene, and MIG Welding Gas.. I have no choice but to rent.. at exorbitant rates.. its criminal.

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Not bad. Renting bottles here is expensive. After 4-5 fills you might as well have bought one. So I'm an ownership guy. Then again I weld for a living.
Trust me!! I know what it is like to weld for a liven.I have been welding for about 25 years now.I should of bought me a bottle a long time ago,But here, you have to return it,They send it off to get it refilled,Then you have to go get it when they call you.No time to wait.
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I have found Tractor Supply and Northern Tool be a really good place to get your gas, they both deal with the same gas supplier. You buy the tank in any size you need and when it's empty just return it for exchange, even on Sundays!

Duncan, That's bad is it some kind of law or just supplier policy?
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IDuncan, That's bad is it some kind of law or just supplier policy?
Supplier policy, an all together too cozy duopoly.

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Trust me!! I know what it is like to weld for a liven.I have been welding for about 25 years now.I should of bought me a bottle a long time ago,But here, you have to return it,They send it off to get it refilled,Then you have to go get it when they call you.No time to wait.
That sucks. When I buy here I have to take it back to the same place. But they have many bottles on hand. But I make a fuss if they try to give me another bottle. "I just bought a $350 bottle, all nice and new and you are trying to give me that beat up one in return? I don't think so, fill mine up, I will wait." They don't like it, but I paid for that bottle, I want mine filled. Especially with my 220 CF bottle. They don't carry that size, so they try to give me a 200 CF. I wouldn't accept it, that means someone else is going to get my bottle and then what? Either give me a 250 and call ti even or fill mien up while I watch.
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That sucks. When I buy here I have to take it back to the same place. But they have many bottles on hand. But I make a fuss if they try to give me another bottle. "I just bought a $350 bottle, all nice and new and you are trying to give me that beat up one in return? I don't think so, fill mine up, I will wait." They don't like it, but I paid for that bottle, I want mine filled. Especially with my 220 CF bottle. They don't carry that size, so they try to give me a 200 CF. I wouldn't accept it, that means someone else is going to get my bottle and then what? Either give me a 250 and call ti even or fill mien up while I watch.

Better keep an eye on that test date! If you keep refilling the same bottle you may end up with an expired test date and you will be out the expen$e of getting it re-certified before anyone will refill it. That's also another thing all you guys need to watch for if you use your tanks infrequently and they sit around for a long time. When you take one in for an exchange be sure and check the test date stamped in the top of the bottle and make sure it is recent. If it is about to expire and you plan on keeping the bottle for a while have them give you a different one.
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If you think you can get by with a 110v welder, and you don't need it often, why not just rent it when you need it? The rental place that is inside Lowe's (NationsRent) rents a couple of welders. Their web site shows a Millermatic 135 (110v) and a Miller CP-302 (220 3 phase) flux-type mig (no gas). They also have several engine-driven portable welders, but I'm sure they are pricey to rent.

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[QUOTE=7 CP-302 (220 3 phase) flux-type mig (no gas). Bruce[/QUOTE]


Are you sure about that 230 3 phase? I can't imagine them renting a 3 phase machine, that's industrial power and 3 phase is not found at a residence. Also there is no such thing as a "flux-type MIG", a flux core welder is just that a flux core welder it is NOT a MIG! Just because a welder is a wire feed type machine does not make it MIG! (M)etal (I)nert (G)as There simply is no such thing as a "gas-less" MIG.
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Better keep an eye on that test date! If you keep refilling the same bottle you may end up with an expired test date and you will be out the expen$e of getting it re-certified before anyone will refill it. That's also another thing all you guys need to watch for if you use your tanks infrequently and they sit around for a long time. When you take one in for an exchange be sure and check the test date stamped in the top of the bottle and make sure it is recent. If it is about to expire and you plan on keeping the bottle for a while have them give you a different one.
around here a test is $10 IIRC
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It,s about $35 dollars here and you will have to wait on the tank.
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The Millermatic 135 from NationsRent has a gas solenoid valve, but the rental does not include a tank of shielding gas. It is a MIG welder (or MIG capable), but can be used without gas. I'm not quite sure of the right terminology for a MIG welder when you don't use any gas - just a flux core wire feed welder?
The main point I was trying to make is that you can easily rent a 110v welder, which might be a better choice for infrequent use.

The Miller CP-302 is listed as 3 phase welder. Some folks rent these welders for commercial applications, and I assume they must have 3 phase power. NationsRent is not limited to items for the residential market.

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