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Old 02-24-2008, 09:10 AM
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I found it odd that they would have 3 phase equipment for rent there everything I have seen is for a small shop or home use but maybe they have a market for it. The correct terminology would be "flux welder" or at least that's become the common term although it's not uncommon to call them "inner-shield" welders but that is a Lincoln trade name. MIG is used to denote an inert gas welding process and it is very misleading to call a flux welder a MIG which had already happened a couple of times in this thread. The terminology is important and more than once someone has asked for help with their "MIG" but after someone else has gone into detail about dealing with problems related to MIG we have found they were not talking about a MIG at all. Also getting the terminology wrong can convey the wrong message when talking about welding and could become a problem in some cases, such as a job interview maybe? When I ran my shop we once had to redo a job because one of the guys insisted on calling all wire feed welders "MIG" and this led to a mis-understanding that cost me several thousand dollars that time so it does make a difference.

Actually the term MIG is somewhat misleading when using CO2 or C25 because these are "active" gases thus the term MAG welder is used in some tech articles, in this case the welder is the same just a different gas (a true inert gas) is used.

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I ran into a strange deal a couple of weeks ago on a gas cylender. We have a couple of places that specialize in welding supplies and gas. The one that I normally deal with has higher prices than the other one, so I figured when I wanted to get a tank of gas for TIG welding, I'd go with the other one. I called to get information on getting a tank. The guy told me that it would take a couple of days to get a credit check done. I ask him about buying a tank. He told me that they will sell them full, but when they are empty, they won't fill them. He said that the tanks they sell have "customer owned" on them, and they only fill their own tanks.

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there are 2 suppliers about 20 miles away the bigger company didn't want to exchange my co2 and they only fill twice a week the biggerst company didn't have exchange tanks for my Acety bottle so i now deal with the smaller company.. co2 argon oxy acety and propane is what i use the customer owned tanks are painted a different color at both places and they will exchange and if they don't have the size to exchange they put it on the invoice and the next time i go in i get the bigger tank the size i own . It sounds like it's time to find another place.
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I bought a 110V Lincoln flux-core welder (no easy way to add gas) before getting advice from folks here. It was ok for light-duty, ugly stuff. After finding this place, I posted some photos of my attempts to weld sheet metal with the flux-core wire and got immediate feedback. As a result of that feedback, I bought a "refurbished" 220V Harbor Freight wire-feed MIG and rented a tank. (It's probably not a reasonable machine for anyone doing a lot of MIG work, but it's fine for what I do). The difference was incredible. I never managed to get a good weld on thin stuff with the flux-core. It didn't take but a few tries with the solid wire and gas, using the remote coaching I got here.

My suggestion, if not already too late (I've only read the first couple of pages of this thread so far), is that you get a true MIG and not even consider the flux-core-only welders. I can only guess at the difference between the higher quality MIGs and the one I got, but I know the difference between flux- and solid-core, 110V vs. 220V. BTW, there was very little difference in price between the Lincoln "Handy-Weld" (flux only) and the refurbished HF -- about $60, including plug and receptacle. The Lincoln came from a local store, the HF came from HF.
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I guess i got lucky, but i bought a LINCOLN Pro 175, on ebay about 3 years ago, great welder, not as good as my old LINDY, but brand new and i paid $190. That included shipping. The seller had 1 feed back. I was the only one that bid. I was really sweating it to....Heck of a deal. Last year i bought at a closing auction, 12 LINCOLN AC/DC + - Dial-a-ark stick welders, paid 500 for all, I had to cannibalize one for parts, they all worked good, sold them for anywheres from 90 to 300 bucks each . So there out there, I got a strange story on my Plasma cutter to, Next time....
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The LINCOLN Pro 175 is a very good machine,That's the one I have,I really like that little machine.
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