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Old 08-27-2019, 02:11 PM
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Wasnít the Monzaís other claim to fame the limited access to the spark plugs.
Required engine be lifted or inner fender removed for replacement. I donít remember exactly which.
Vega and Monza inner fenders are not removeable they are part of the structure of the unibody.

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Vega and Monza inner fenders are not removeable they are part of the structure of the unibody.
My understanding of it was one engine mount through bolt could come out to make it possible with mere mortals' tools. On a 305. I only know (of) that trivia tidbit because Dad had one for a few days as a loaner when I was budding automotively.
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probably with all the emissions and junk they would be harder to work on,,i had a couple of vegas ,,one with a 327 anf hilborn injection and another with a sbc 400 and 2 4s they were not bad to work on ,,but I was younger I would not want to change an air filter now,,lol,

I am trying to find a picture of Annie (My Wife ) doing a full power launch
with the 327 in it..i will post it..
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Vega and Monza inner fenders are not removeable they are part of the structure of the unibody.
Right. I missed that part earlier...
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Ok for chevy I would guess a 262 which came in the Monza,,The monte carlo and a Vega Wagon ,but not the car,,mabe in others
I missed this by 1 minute,,lol
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probably with all the emissions and junk they would be harder to work on,,i had a couple of vegas ,,one with a 327 anf hilborn injection and another with a sbc 400 and 2 4s they were not bad to work on ,,but I was younger I would not want to change an air filter now,,lol,

I am trying to find a picture of Annie (My Wife ) doing a full power launch
with the 327 in it..i will post it..
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I haven't found pictures with wheels up in the air yet,,but this is 2 of the cars the Red one is the 327 with hilborn injection an a power glide.. the Green one is a 400 (406 ) 2 4s and turbo 350,,
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That went like the crack of a whip!

What was the actual displacement of the "326" engine used in the 1963 Tempest?
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The actual displacement was of Pontiacs 326 was 336ci.

Simple enough to answer but here's a tougher question about Pontiacs 326/336 engine.

Why did Pontiac call it's 336ci engine a 326ci?

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The actual displacement was of Pontiacs 326 was 336ci.

Simple enough to answer but here's a tougher question about Pontiacs 326/336 engine.

Why did Pontiac call it's 336ci engine a 326ci?

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Because someone made a mistake on the blue print and it stayed that way?

I am thinking it may be like the "400" in the 65 Gran Sport because GM wouldn't allow them to use a motor bigger than 326 in a certain model they were planning on putting the 336?

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The actual displacement was of Pontiacs 326 was 336ci.

Simple enough to answer but here's a tougher question about Pontiacs 326/336 engine.

Why did Pontiac call it's 336ci engine a 326ci?

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This I could not figure out, as Steve Magnante says they were badged that way. My guess is that they had caught wind of the 1964 rules and knew what was coming down the pipe.
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Not a mistake at all. It was done on purpose.

IDJ explain the 1964 "rules.

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Not a mistake at all. It was done on purpose.

IDJ explain the 1964 "rules.

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IIRC, a six liter limit on the new A body. The 58-9 GMC 336 inch which was an altered 50s Pontiac 370 that was available in 63 Tempests (four barrel midyear) was replaced by a reduced bore size 389 to produce the 326 and 326 HO made in later years. Despite the update, the valve angle was same in both versions.

So I figure it was to avoid a one year hiccup since the Buick 215 was the people's choice. The opportunity to spank it's numbers before year's end came by slapping an AFB on a truck engine that was replaced by the big bent GMC six.

That was from the seat of my pants, how'd I do? Might have that twisted up pretty bad in my mind.
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IIRC, a six liter limit on the new A body. The 58-9 GMC 336 inch which was an altered 50s Pontiac 370 that was available in 63 Tempests (four barrel midyear) was replaced by a reduced bore size 389 to produce the 326 and 326 HO made in later years. Despite the update, the valve angle was same in both versions.

So I figure it was to avoid a one year hiccup since the Buick 215 was the people's choice. The opportunity to spank it's numbers before year's end came by slapping an AFB on a truck engine that was replaced by the big bent GMC six.

That was from the seat of my pants, how'd I do? Might have that twisted up pretty bad in my mind.

Good explanation but not quite what I had in mind. The answer is simple and it's two part. First Pontiac had mandated that to be a midrange engine it could not be over 330ci. Secondly John Delorean was pushing his GTO Tempest and it never hurt for that whole line of cars to be "Powerful". That's also why they ended up making a HO version of the 326" Kind of a sleeper.


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