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Old 12-08-2019, 09:10 PM
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Knudsen and Beswick come to mind next, as I pull names out of a foggy hat. Never really concerned myself with Firebirds and as for me being a Pontiac guy... yeah I like how they look. I like the engine. I know song names but artist names or histories, no. Same thing. I like to hear the word Pontiac come up naturally in conversations and since we live close to one another, you know as well as I do how many later ones are in traffic still. Sure thought the first guess was the guys who did the 69 GP and I figured it might be the same guys. But I'm out of names at the moment, off the top of my head.

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Nope.
Neither was working for GM at that time
John DeLorean worked for GM until 1972. He was with Pontiac from 1956 to 1969. He left Pontiac to head up Chevy for a short leaving in 1972. Cars under his direction were as follows Pontiac GTO muscle car, the Pontiac Firebird, Pontiac Grand Prix, Chevrolet Cosworth Vega.
Bill Porter and Jack Humbert were the design team through Gen 2 Firebird. Both under the direction of John DeLorean, head of Pontiac.

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Both firebird and Camaro were put into production to combate Fords Mustang. GM at first thought the mustang would be nothing more than a warmed over Falcon. Bad spys! The Firebird and Camaro had been put on the back burners earlier because Pete Estas of Chevy didn't want anything to come close to the Corvette in performance . The GTO could have been a lot more peppier except for the Corvette.
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One is a well known artist who had worked for GM for a while, but left before 1967
The other is a legendary West Coast customizer
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:42 PM
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I will have to find a High Perfomance Pontiac mag article, I betcha Rocky knows the scoop.

Before I search for the truth and disqualify myself though, I have to ask what 69 Trans Am?

It was a 69 1/2. That much I think I remember.
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Before I search for the truth and disqualify myself though, I have to ask what 69 Trans Am?

It was a 69 1/2. That much I think I remember.
The design was submitted in 1967
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:37 AM
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The people Dragonoake is looking for are Gene Winfield and designer Harry Bradley. I never heard this story before but after finding their names and the connection I poked around a little more and found this.


Here's where the story gets better for me. I've mentioned that I worked at a Pontiac Dealership in the San Fernando Valley as a New Car and Quick Service mechanic in those years. Livingston Pontiac was the closest dealership to where Titus had his shop and we saw him and his kid freaklently in our parts dept. One of our parts guy was a Tran's Am freak both car and the racing class. He was Titus's # one fan and was over at Jerry's shop all the time. He'ed drag back all the take off parts that Jerry took off his cars and replaced with heavier duty parts. Rear sway bars come to mind because I got a few and took them home Who knows, maybe I got one from this car? Doubt it but who knows. Here's the neater thing. Jerry would sometimes show up in a , you guessed it, a silver Trans Am.

Thanks Dragonoake for your question. I would have never been able to put this together!

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The people Dragonoake is looking for are Gene Winfield and designer Harry Bradley.
Yep, you got it
Did I not tell you you would know very well who these people were?

Never saw the video before; in fact, I had just read this article hours before I posted the question

I keep thinking about the time, back in 1985, I was talking to a collector and she was telling me about a '69 Trans Am convertible sitting in a junk yard in Boulder, CO....
We both knew it was one of eight made, but.... "Not worth it," she said, "It hit a tree and it would cost you 30-grand to fix it up."

Even if I had spent another $50k to make everything perfect,it still would have been the best $80k I've ever spent
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Here is a old photo that I recognized from a long time ago. Pretty famous car and I knew one of it's drivers. It's very recognizable from this picture. Anyone know what it is?

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Here is a old photo that I recognized from a long time ago. Pretty famous car and I knew one of it's drivers. It's very recognizable from this picture. Anyone know what it is?

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It's only recognizable, if one recognizes it...

I recall hearing about that particular combination years ago, but had no idea who built, or drove it. After a little sleuthing, I came up with Matsuda as the cars owner, but not much else, other than you tube vids. Still not sure why the odd combination of engines made sense.
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It's only recognizable, if one recognizes it...

I recall hearing about that particular combination years ago, but had no idea who built, or drove it. After a little sleuthing, I came up with Matsuda as the cars owner, but not much else, other than you tube vids. Still not sure why the odd combination of engines made sense.
I'll grant you it's not the best photo but there are some very recognizable tells in it.The car had more than one driver in it's career. This photo is a early one. This shot is it's first configuration. As the car was campaigned it chanced a lot. Red Fogleman drove it fo a while. Red was a parts guy at the Pontiac Dealership I worked at. Not the same guy as the Jerry Titus freak. One of our other parts guys was a Track Flagman. Good eye though. We'll let it go a little longer because it was a interesting and odd dragster!

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Nobody recognizes this famous dragster? It was a pretty big deal in its time ' It won the Nationals at Pomona. I'll give you a hint. This rail solved the war between Chevys and Hemis! Ken Kull built it.

Look real hard.

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I had no idea it existed, but here it is. I have never been able to grasp how you can hook two different motors like that, I just don't get it. How can one produce the same power if it's being dragged down by another? Be it different torque or what ever, I don't get how different motors can be hooked together that way and work very well.

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I think the small block replaced the power loss of the blower on the hemi...
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I think the small block replaced the power loss of the blower on the hemi...
Heck, I thought that was a front-mounted starter "motor".
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