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Old 02-24-2014, 11:47 AM
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Ta-Dah!!!!

Joe, you got it!

The Gaylord brothers conceived an advanced, modern interpretation of a classic car. They wanted a car that would handle and run with the best that Europe had to offer, but with American power and reliability. The car had an advanced suspension with huge amounts of suspension travel.

Powered by a Caddy engine.

It had a retractable hardtop, (several years in advance of Ford's Skyliners) that was powered by ONE motor - not the many motors that Ford eventually used.

It had variable ratio power steering - decades before anyone else had that feature. The 1957 (final) design had "dual-quad" headlights and was the first American car to do so. The rear did not change much in the various designs, but the front was "tamed down" a bit and the 1957 final design looked a LOT like what the Rolls-Royces of the late 60's became

It was designed by Brooks Stevens

4 Chassis were built, and the bodies were then built in Europe (like most major manufacturers did with concept cars), but only 3 bodies were constructed. Spohn (Germany) did the bodies.

A complete car plus a bare chassis are in the Silver Springs (Fla) auto museum

Joe- its your turn to ask one!
I hope Dave doesn't mind that I add a couple of things concerning the Gaylord Gladiator. This car was absolutely amazing and tremendously ahead of its time. That variable power steering was dash controlled. The chassis was tubular constructed like that of a race car. This was to be a $17,500 automobile! Here's a couple of links for more info. Take the time to read the article by Langworth and the letter by Gilmore. Great reading indeed!

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Thanks, Dave. That was a great question.

One thing that astounds me about the Gladiator is this:
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It had a retractable hardtop, (several years in advance of Ford's Skyliners) that was powered by ONE motor - not the many motors that Ford eventually used.
As someone who has worked on a lot of '60s Lincoln convertibles and a few Skyliner retractables, I would love to see how they pulled that off. Somehow they (1) unlocked the top, (2) opened the decklid, (3) retracted the top, and (4) closed the decklid all with one motor. I can't imagine how they did that.

Next question (this should be an easier one):

What is this rare, low-production American car?

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No guesses? Here's a hint:

Some of these cars were owned by famous entertainers such as Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Ronald Reagan. Desi Arnaz totalled one.

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It's a '57 Chrysler Dual Ghia

And it's been said that Ronald Reagan lost his in a high-stakes poker game with then-President Lyndon Johnson.

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It's a '57 Chrysler Dual Ghia

And it's been said that Ronald Reagan lost his in a high-stakes poker game with then-President Lyndon Johnson.
You got it, Dragonoake!

Dual Ghia is correct. The floor is yours....
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As Bill Cosby once said, "Pipes! Wait 'til the kids in their Chevys see these pipes!"

Now ... What are they for?
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Now that is a very interesting question.The car you show probably did not start out with those chrome side pipes.The model you show is a JN which was the last model they built and only a few were made.The model the functional chrome side pipes were designed for was the SJ and the two SSJ's. These were all supercharged cars with functional chrome exhaust side pipes exiting the hood.
The chrome side pipes on all the other models were added after or special ordered at the purchase time. Some of the added pipes were non-functional, just for looks.
So that being said unless you raise the hood you can't tell. I have visited the Cord Auburn Duesenburg Museum a couple of times and all those beautiful cars are beautiful!!!

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I was just reading a article about Clark Gable's 1935 Duesenburg JN and the car you have shone is his. Gable took his car to Bohman & Schwartz in Pasadena, Calif for a complete rework after buying it. All of the JN bodies were originally built by the Rollston Company. One of the modification Gable had done to his JN was removing the side mounted spare tires and putting them in the rear. So if that is Gable'e car he also added the chrome side pipes. They did not come from the factory originally.

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As Bill Cosby once said, "Pipes! Wait 'til the kids in their Chevys see these pipes!"

Now ... What are they for?
Exhaust I'm not sure I understand the question.
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They look real to me! Damn those motors are beautiful. I am thinking it would cost more to restore that motor than my 235, ya think?

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They look real to me! Damn those motors are beautiful. I am thinking it would cost more to restore that motor than my 235, ya think?

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Quite so. If you notice it's suprcharged.

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Double overhead cam, supercharged. It took the rest of the world another 70 years to catch up to the Deusenberg's engineering! This car was developed before Ford even brought out a (flathead) V8!

It won LeMans - the single most prestigious race in the world - because it also had hydraulic brakes! It could out-accelerate and outbrake all the M-B's, Blower Bentleys, Bugattis and all the others!
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Double overhead cam, supercharged. It took the rest of the world another 70 years to catch up to the Deusenberg's engineering! This car was developed before Ford even brought out a (flathead) V8!

It won LeMans - the single most prestigious race in the world - because it also had hydraulic brakes! It could out-accelerate and outbrake all the M-B's, Blower Bentleys, Bugattis and all the others!
Yea but Dave, it's only a piddling 8cyl! Now if you want to look at a Duesy engine how about this one?

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W24 Duesenburg engine

Now that's a Duesy!!
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Um.... "this one?"
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Um.... "this one?"
You read to fast.

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