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Old 04-18-2016, 04:12 PM
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I've been looking online for days now trying to find someone that carries lighter valve springs that can be used just for cam break-in on a cam that has a .533 lift. Nobody seems to know of anything. The instuctions say to use a spring with lighter pressure for break-in, but nobody carries them. I've ruined 3 cams now by not doing this. Any of you guys have any ideas?

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I've been looking online for days now trying to find someone that carries lighter valve springs that can be used just for cam break-in on a cam that has a .533 lift. Nobody seems to know of anything. The instuctions say to use a spring with lighter pressure for break-in, but nobody carries them. I've ruined 3 cams now by not doing this. Any of you guys have any ideas?

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Just a guess if you have some old wore out stock springs or failing that if you have the dual kind of springs just install the outer spring that might work.. Sometimes we need to use some injun-nuity..

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Old 04-18-2016, 04:30 PM
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Personally ,I like the white better any way,,Falcon still looking good
Yupper, always liked the white roofs on those trucks.
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:50 PM
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Spent the day cleaning the roadster up. Believe me, it took the day!

Barb and I got out and went to our first cruise to the Sconic tonight. It was good to see the gang. Life is getting back to normal.

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Spent the day cleaning the roadster up. Believe me, it took the day!

Barb and I got out and went to our first cruise to the Sonic tonight. It was good to see the gang. Life is getting back to normal.

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That is good news that she is able to get around that well now
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That is good news that she is able to get around that well now
We probably pushed it a bit further than we should. Her foot and ankle are a bit swollen tonight but we both really enjoyed getting out.

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I held the flexplate still while another guy torqued the balancer. Because I wandered out of my bodywork stall. That color makes me smell chlorine.

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cleaned and painted the valve coverers. (gaskets were completely blown out!!!)

Added this black air cleaner too!!
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Ok guys, do you have any ideas why in the hell this wheel cyl has fallen apart? This is the right side that didn't fall apart.





This is one I found on the net.



The self adjuster had to be turned way out on Nick's car,you can see that in the first photo. I felt uncomfortable screwing it out that far. So I know it's not "right" but it seemed to have plenty left and the shoes appear to be where they belong. They are even all the way around, they look like they are hitting the drum evenly across the surface of the shoe. But this is what the other side looks like.







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I held the flexplate still while another guy torqued the balancer. Because I wandered out of my bodywork stall. That color makes me smell chlorine.

haha.. funny.

Very cool stuff. I STILLl like the swimming-pool-colored motor.(probably just me?)
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Ok guys, do you have any ideas why in the hell this wheel cyl has fallen apart? This is the right side that didn't fall apart.

This is one I found on the net.

The self adjuster had to be turned way out on Nick's car,you can see that in the first photo. I felt uncomfortable screwing it out that far. So I know it's not "right" but it seemed to have plenty left and the shoes appear to be where they belong. They are even all the way around, they look like they are hitting the drum evenly across the surface of the shoe. But this is what the other side looks like.


Do you have any ideas?

Brian
Very strange. Never seen brakes come apart like that.
Brake torque with that power house engine? (JK)

It almost appears that the contact area on your shoes is not receiving full contact with the cylinder pin. The contact areas on your shoes appear to be "high" up in relation to the cylinder.

Drums worn too much oversize? Dumb question, knowing you, but had to ask.
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Ok guys, do you have any ideas why in the hell this wheel cyl has fallen apart? This is the right side that didn't fall apart.


This is one I found on the net.



The self adjuster had to be turned way out on Nick's car,you can see that in the first photo. I felt uncomfortable screwing it out that far. So I know it's not "right" but it seemed to have plenty left and the shoes appear to be where they belong. They are even all the way around, they look like they are hitting the drum evenly across the surface of the shoe. But this is what the other side looks like.




Do you have any ideas?

Brian
I believe your last pic explains what happened. Look at the inset of your left shoe where the adjuster seats...it appears to have been ground/filed slightly and is MUCH shallower than the web pic you have. I think the adjuster slipped up out of the inset and let the shoes close at the bottom, allowing the top to spread too much under application, which let the piston pop out.

Bottom line, I don't think those are the correct shoe frames for the Falcon. Rebuilt shoe frames can fit thousands of applications by SIZE but not have the correct holes/spacing/geometry for every vehicle they supposedly "fit".
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:48 AM
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Ok guys, do you have any ideas why in the hell this wheel cyl has fallen apart? This is the right side that didn't fall apart.





This is one I found on the net.



The self adjuster had to be turned way out on Nick's car,you can see that in the first photo. I felt uncomfortable screwing it out that far. So I know it's not "right" but it seemed to have plenty left and the shoes appear to be where they belong. They are even all the way around, they look like they are hitting the drum evenly across the surface of the shoe. But this is what the other side looks like.







Do you have any ideas?

Brian
looks to me like you have the wrong shoes, the springs hit the wheel cyl and the wheel cyl arms don't line up with the notches in the shoes. but I'm no expert.
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I also wonder if the drum is in spec. I would also be suspicious about the internals of the wheel cylinder and wonder if there is a difference (like wrong part that looks right on the outside) between sides. Never messed with Ford front drums, only GM. Looks like the Falcon doesn't use any little pins in the ends of the cylinder. A worn anchor pin was usually my trouble but I never saw one just fall apart.
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