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Old 10-02-2017, 08:35 PM
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In the mid seventies, I bought a '68 Camaro that the windshield channel was leaking on the left side, so I removed the windshield only to have most of the channel come off with it, due to rust... I somewhat knew a bodyman/painter and called him to fix it and asked if I should bring the windshield with..."naw, we can fix that without it". 2 weeks later, I brought the car home and the patch wasn't even CLOSE !!! I took the car AND windshield back again. 2 weeks later I got the car back with the glass installed and no leaks..
I did SOOOOOOO many sixties and seventies GM car window channels I couldn't begin to count them. My shop was right across the street from a glass shop, I did a TON of them.

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Got out to the garage to get Nicks 8.8 out of the trailer and discuss what are the next steps on it. Then went over my door and measured that metal again, it's actually 19 gauge so I will see if I can get a sheet of that. Either way I am ordering my sheet of steel tomorrow for Nick to go get for me.

I also had some fun going over things on the door and what I did with the door sectioning it, he is showing some interest in this stuff.

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Old 10-03-2017, 03:57 AM
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I got all the carpentry done in the basement.
Wahooo!!!

Back to the main floor tonight. Need to finish before Christmas. Got the whole famn damily coming for dinner.
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Got out to the garage to get Nicks 8.8 out of the trailer and discuss what are the next steps on it. Then went over my door and measured that metal again, it's actually 19 gauge so I will see if I can get a sheet of that. Either way I am ordering my sheet of steel tomorrow for Nick to go get for me.

I also had some fun going over things on the door and what I did with the door sectioning it, he is showing some interest in this stuff.

Brian
While I know they make 19 ga, I have not been able to find it locally. I have used 18 and try to keep it just a tiny bit proud so when I grind my welds I don't have to worry about metal thinning.


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I got all the carpentry done in the basement.
Wahooo!!!

Back to the main floor tonight. Need to finish before Christmas. Got the whole famn damily coming for dinner.
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:29 AM
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While I know they make 19 ga, I have not been able to find it locally. I have used 18 and try to keep it just a tiny bit proud so when I grind my welds I don't have to worry about metal thinning.


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Most of the stuff I am now doing, cowl pieces and what not the 18 would be fine anyway. But damn it's nice for the body parks to have it exactly. The patch I just did was with 19, it works nice.

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I got all the carpentry done in the basement.
Wahooo!!!

Back to the main floor tonight. Need to finish before Christmas. Got the whole famn damily coming for dinner.
Great looking window treatments.

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Just sat the back glass on the 59 Cat job to check fit with all the fabbed pieces screwed on. Looks OK to me, if there's a tight spot it's bottom left. I have little experience with rubber mounted glass though so I will gather available opinions from others that have more. I made efforts to assure I'd create no interference that did not exist previously. I doubt that we will have the luxury of fitting the glass with a new seal before paint time.
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Sooooo, I put my metal in the garage and cut one of the pieces into smaller more manageable pieces and that was all I was going to do. But I just couldn't stop and I marked off the first piece I need to make and bolted my brake to the bench and went at it....and failed. I am so damn disappointed, that 18 gauge overwhelmed me, it totally overwhelmed me and my "dollar stretcher tools" sheetmetal brake.

I will give it another try but damn, I am thinking I need to get another friggin sheet and go to 20 gauge, CRAP.

I did get a little tune up stuff done on my daughters Altima, changed the plugs and air filter and cleaned the FI unit out.

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The opinion I trust said that window fit is good so I shall proceed. You can see the entire cut out area, its over five feet long. That cut edge can move up and down a good half inch, and you can see tabs I have added to the long patch and one corner patch. Just enough to support that edge so the seam stays flush. I anticipate epic warpage due to how bad that edge wants to drop.

But I am going ahead with the welding, and moving on to... You guessed it... top of the rear window. Roof patching.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:23 AM
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The opinion I trust said that window fit is good so I shall proceed. You can see the entire cut out area, its over five feet long. That cut edge can move up and down a good half inch, and you can see tabs I have added to the long patch and one corner patch. Just enough to support that edge so the seam stays flush. I anticipate epic warpage due to how bad that edge wants to drop.

But I am going ahead with the welding, and moving on to... You guessed it... top of the rear window. Roof patching.
Yep, at some point you have to stop forming and start welding, it will line up as you go and be fine when done.

I'm going to get a '71 Chevelle to bring here and assemble for a guy. It's in a small garage in an alley with nothing on the frame rails from the firewall forward. Going to be "interesting" to get it out and on the trailer... Pics later today.
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Wow BB. I have never seen anyone plate a quarter panel. You just can't hide money.



The car is blue. It is a late eighties Mercedes midnight blue. A straight color without any metalic. It's not flashy but I really think it fits the car.

I did the complete inner hood brace without ever using the brake. All the angles were tipped with the bead roller. I have also tipped flanges with the English Wheel when they are curved or longer than my three foot brake can handle. You can shim the flat wheel up and work your patch through it tipping the panel and creating a flange. Works well but usually requires tightening up in the vice or with hammer and dolly.

I am hoping to get back to the '53 real soon. Barb has a sister that is terminally ill and probably only has 2-3 weeks. We have been spending a great deal of time at her place. It is a sad situation but at least she is not in pain.

John

Sorry to hear about your sister-in-law.
Lost my mother back in June.
It comforts me knowing God has plans for our lost love ones and they're in a better place.
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Yep, at some point you have to stop forming and start welding, it will line up as you go and be fine when done.

I'm going to get a '71 Chevelle to bring here and assemble for a guy. It's in a small garage in an alley with nothing on the frame rails from the firewall forward. Going to be "interesting" to get it out and on the trailer... Pics later today.
Tote it like a wheelbarrow if there's an axle under it. I can't think of a better guy to build up a 71 with care. Let's see what you're up against.

By making the center patch first I kept reference points. No worries. Corner pieces are welded. Once I realised tabs were needed, I abandoned hope of making this all one piece.
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So far, today's adventure is half done. We got the car and most of the mechanical parts loaded up and here. Now to unload it all...













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I really like the body dolly. Pretty cool the way it mounts to the pinch weld. I think two of those could be really handy.

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