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Old 03-01-2018, 11:06 PM
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Idrivejunk, not my business but I think you should go back into production. At the biggest shops in the nation they pay really well, offer insurance, retirement, and you make what you produce. Sure I love working on old cars but the work is redundant, pay is not enough, and it's not where the money is at. Look at rubber gloves for example. I remember it being a hassle just to get them, I'd reuse them often. Now I probably waste like 10 pairs a day. If I wipe filler I use new gloves for that and just toss them. No need to save them.

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Old 03-01-2018, 11:21 PM
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busy yet slow day today. Seemed like we all were in slow mo cause we were pushed super hard all month. We will probably have a meeting on Monday to tell us how our team did this month and i think we did good. Anyhow, it's not Friday yet but I'm already mentally clocked out for the weekend and am somehow getting a lot of time on the books for today and tomorrow. I just want to wake up on Saturday and start filing my aluminum welds down and get to polishing and then fab another art piece for a customer.

Anywho, got some daddy toys. I needed a couple more clamps cause I got sick of making due with moving them around after tacks. I think I got enough now. Probably will get one more axial clamp for jambs and I'm set. The T handle torx were cheap and for getting door handle caps out mainly. I got sockets but they don't work all the time. The body line tool is a gem. I laughed at that tool before til I used one.

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Idrivejunk, not my business but I think you should go back into production. At the biggest shops in the nation they pay really well, offer insurance, retirement, and you make what you produce. Sure I love working on old cars but the work is redundant, pay is not enough, and it's not where the money is at. Look at rubber gloves for example. I remember it being a hassle just to get them, I'd reuse them often. Now I probably waste like 10 pairs a day. If I wipe filler I use new gloves for that and just toss them. No need to save them.
I just don't want it that bad, man. I had it and its a bunk trip for me. Things I hear locally sound just like what you run into out there, about non-car people running a car business. My boss is a painter I've known and liked for twenty years and trust is #1. I quit my body job at the family owned Benz dealer when word came of a sellout. Had I stayed, benefits would not have carried over but I'd have been doing structural and frame since then. I could not tolerate any guff from the office, and with the local market mostly having moved away from flat rate... screw that. Your sentiment is duly appreciated but man I don't want to listen to any chislers tell me how much I'll make, blowin smoke up my butt. I know better, its hype. The guy who was my manager at the dealer, and other bodyman who worked there, run the "we sell and service all brands, new and used" mega uber chick car dealer shop and they called me one day after a couple years where I'm at. I was tickled to hear from an old bud and began joking around. He popped the hire question, in genuine desperation for a tech who can not hurt cars when building. They remembered me, aww. Feel kinda bad about it now but I burst into laughter and he got a little insulted. Well, OK. There are them who get motivation primarily from dollars. I do not. Them that do simply cannot imagine my stance. Been that way all my life. If its BS, I'm gone right now. The advice is duly noted and appreciated but seriously the pace was getting to me. Still does but I feel a lot cooler.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:03 AM
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it gets annoying when you have a bunch of people hounding you for the work, that's for sure. I think the worst is not enough work combined with favoritism. I'm fortunate to not be dealing with that anymore. They glance at the work for like 5 minutes tops. If you follow procedure, work passes QC, and you produce over 200 hours they're nice to you and everything is great.
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Old 03-02-2018, 11:41 AM
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I just don't want it that bad, man. I had it and its a bunk trip for me. Things I hear locally sound just like what you run into out there, about non-car people running a car business. My boss is a painter I've known and liked for twenty years and trust is #1. I quit my body job at the family owned Benz dealer when word came of a sellout. Had I stayed, benefits would not have carried over but I'd have been doing structural and frame since then. I could not tolerate any guff from the office, and with the local market mostly having moved away from flat rate... screw that. Your sentiment is duly appreciated but man I don't want to listen to any chislers tell me how much I'll make, blowin smoke up my butt. I know better, its hype. The guy who was my manager at the dealer, and other bodyman who worked there, run the "we sell and service all brands, new and used" mega uber chick car dealer shop and they called me one day after a couple years where I'm at. I was tickled to hear from an old bud and began joking around. He popped the hire question, in genuine desperation for a tech who can not hurt cars when building. They remembered me, aww. Feel kinda bad about it now but I burst into laughter and he got a little insulted. Well, OK. There are them who get motivation primarily from dollars. I do not. Them that do simply cannot imagine my stance. Been that way all my life. If its BS, I'm gone right now. The advice is duly noted and appreciated but seriously the pace was getting to me. Still does but I feel a lot cooler.

I felt that way for a long time, then I had my own shop for 13 years and was dying to go work for someone where I had no decisions to make and simply put in a days work. It's amazing how much we learn with different jobs, I know the paint rep job taught me truck loads, train loads! Going into hundreds of shops, 77 stores, in different parts of the country, I can't believe what I learned. One thing was that a bodyshop is a business, not one bit different than a whore house or shoe store, cost vs sales=GP that's all there is to it. With looking at it more like that I understand more how my boss now sees things. LOL Where I have worked for the past 17 years I just am so blessed, I get to do good work without anyone beating me up over it. I have always looked at the collision work as "restoration" simply on a 3 year old car, that brings me the enjoyment of the job of doing restoration or hot rod work. All I know is I wish I had been a paint rep before I had my shop, I would have been MUCH more successful!

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I was going to post pics of my '47 fun yesterday, but went out to my shop to turn the heat up first. Looks like someone tried to break in last night, as the knob is smacked and bent. They must not have tried more than once and left. Thankfully, the lock held and they didn't get in, but I'm pi$$ed that this $h!te happened. Guess it's time to spring for motion activated lights and camera out there...

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I was going to post pics of my '47 fun yesterday, but went out to my shop to turn the heat up first. Looks like someone tried to break in last night, as the knob is smacked and bent. They must not have tried more than once and left. Thankfully, the lock held and they didn't get in, but I'm pi$$ed that this $h!te happened. Guess it's time to spring for motion activated lights and camera out there...
OH DAMN! You just fired me up too, I need to get a camera out there and get better locks. At least your lock held, I really need to up my game.

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Old 03-02-2018, 01:56 PM
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have cameras up around here. now i can watch them steal my stuff when i'm gone .
at night around here a squirrel can fart and dogs tune up. my place is dark. no lights so they cant see me until i see them .
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:09 PM
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OH DAMN! You just fired me up too, I need to get a camera out there and get better locks. At least your lock held, I really need to up my game.

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Another weakness is having a service door with windows just above the lock. All they have to do is break the glass, reach in and unlock the door. My service door is metal encased wood with a steel frame and the windows are at the top, so no one can see in or reach the locks from inside.

It has a dead bolt too, that protrudes 1" into the solid jam framing. That wasn't locked last night, but guess what....it will be from here on out...
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have cameras up around here. now i can watch them steal my stuff when i'm gone .
at night around here a squirrel can fart and dogs tune up. my place is dark. no lights so they cant see me until i see them .
I put mine up not long ago and I can go to your house in watch everything at my house when I want any wheres in my yard and shop on my phone.. Best thing I ever did.. Day or night I can see U..
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yep. at least i will have a plate number and a pic of your soon to be swollen face.
the sign on my door reads " if you can read this your in range "
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:48 PM
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I just don't want it that bad, man. I had it and its a bunk trip for me. Things I hear locally sound just like what you run into out there, about non-car people running a car business. My boss is a painter I've known and liked for twenty years and trust is #1. I quit my body job at the family owned Benz dealer when word came of a sellout. Had I stayed, benefits would not have carried over but I'd have been doing structural and frame since then. I could not tolerate any guff from the office, and with the local market mostly having moved away from flat rate... screw that. Your sentiment is duly appreciated but man I don't want to listen to any chislers tell me how much I'll make, blowin smoke up my butt. I know better, its hype. The guy who was my manager at the dealer, and other bodyman who worked there, run the "we sell and service all brands, new and used" mega uber chick car dealer shop and they called me one day after a couple years where I'm at. I was tickled to hear from an old bud and began joking around. He popped the hire question, in genuine desperation for a tech who can not hurt cars when building. They remembered me, aww. Feel kinda bad about it now but I burst into laughter and he got a little insulted. Well, OK. There are them who get motivation primarily from dollars. I do not. Them that do simply cannot imagine my stance. Been that way all my life. If its BS, I'm gone right now. The advice is duly noted and appreciated but seriously the pace was getting to me. Still does but I feel a lot cooler.
I got that way with money a while ago too. When I reached 55, I realized that I wasn't ever going to be rich for all the hours I put in or be able to retire early, so I backed off and started finding more time for personal interests. Now I p!$$ away 10-$15 a week on lottery tickets... Probably a better chance of winning that than earning enough to realize all my late life desires...
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Coil springs and shocks done today.
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yep. at least i will have a plate number and a pic of your soon to be swollen face.
the sign on my door reads " if you can read this your in range "
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I tried to find a picture of my enrtance door,
i actually have the sign you posted on my door...

I like this one also.
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Curious why you changed the springs...
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