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Old 03-05-2018, 01:29 PM
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i got her leveled


please somone tell me how lowering it another .5 inch would be bad. so i dont do it

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i got her leveled


please somone tell me how lowering it another .5 inch would be bad. so i dont do it
What about weight transfer on Launch.
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What about weight transfer on Launch.
it should be fine were it is , its got drag springs in the front and good struts but yeah prolly not a good idea to come down anymore . tht reminds me i need to put the travel limiters on the front
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I worked on recovering the sail panel for the '66 chevelle I set on fire a couple weeks ago... I sprayed both parts with 3M glue and let sit for 15 minutes. Then I used wax paper to leave just a 2" gap for initial contact without trying to hold the fabric away as I smoothed it out. I was able to place the cardboard accurately with the fabric down, but then turned it over and pulled 1 piece of paper out at a time and held the fabric up as I squeegeed it down. It worked great, but I was gun shy with the glue on the edges of the fabric and I had to re-spray them and put weight on to get them to adhere. Everything looks good at this point and I am letting it dry overnight before folding the sides over to be glued down.









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i got her leveled

please somone tell me how lowering it another .5 inch would be bad. so i dont do it
It would suck big time to go lower unless you like driving around in something people tell you looks great when it really doesn't.
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I got the oil changed but can't tell if there's any knocking with the open pipes.

Tranny seems to be shifting and no fluid leaks so should be a success.

Ball joints next. What happens if I break the ball joints apart from the spindle with the coil springs not compressed? Big bang? Damage? Flying things? If my tranny jack is under the control arm doing this, will the spring push the car up off the hoist when it lets go?

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I got the oil changed but can't tell if there's any knocking with the open pipes.

Tranny seems to be shifting and no fluid leaks so should be a success.

Ball joints next. What happens if I break the ball joints apart from the spindle with the coil springs not compressed? Big bang? Damage? Flying things? If my tranny jack is under the control arm doing this, will the spring push the car up off the hoist when it lets go?

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Tool rentL AT LOCAL PARTS HOUSE , free if you return the spring compressor or you can keep it for the deposit,,i would not attempt it without one,,

get the type that goes thru the center of coil spring where shock bolt goes,,Do Not yse the type with the J hoohs on the outside ,,DANGEROUS
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I got the oil changed but can't tell if there's any knocking with the open pipes.

Tranny seems to be shifting and no fluid leaks so should be a success.

Ball joints next. What happens if I break the ball joints apart from the spindle with the coil springs not compressed? Big bang? Damage? Flying things? If my tranny jack is under the control arm doing this, will the spring push the car up off the hoist when it lets go?

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I back the nuts off a couple turns and then whack the spindle with the spring pressure pulling down to help pop them loose. Once the taper seat has let go, use the jack to compress the spring some again and pull the top nut off and change the upper ball joint. Attach the upper joint into the spindle again and remove the bottom nut and hold the spindle up out of the way with a bungee cord. The bottom one is pressed into the arm and can be a PITA to get out with the arm on the car, but if you have an impact hammer, they can be "persuaded" to drop out. Once the new ball joint is started in the arm, attach the spindle again and remove the jack, allowing the spring to help pull the joint into the arm, while tapping around the perimeter. You won't have any problem with the joints/spindle separating with the weight of the car on the jack.
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Tool rentL AT LOCAL PARTS HOUSE , free if you return the spring compressor or you can keep it for the deposit,,i would not attempt it without one,,

get the type that goes thru the center of coil spring where shock bolt goes,,Do Not yse the type with the J hoohs on the outside ,,DANGEROUS
I have a 3 ft length of 9/16 all thread rod and plates I made to hold the arms while doing this with no weight on the chassis, such as a roller. Just back the nuts off until the spring has relaxed or there is enough room to remove the ball joints as necessary.
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please somone tell me how lowering it another .5 inch would be bad. so i dont do it
Looks good! That little rake will keep air out from under it at speed.
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I got the oil changed but can't tell if there's any knocking with the open pipes.

Tranny seems to be shifting and no fluid leaks so should be a success.

Ball joints next. What happens if I break the ball joints apart from the spindle with the coil springs not compressed? Big bang? Damage? Flying things? If my tranny jack is under the control arm doing this, will the spring push the car up off the hoist when it lets go?

Tips?
Mitch has you covered, sounds like. With engine and trans in she won't hop when it pops. My GP has kinda long control arms but with the bigger jack stands I have, all the way up, I can gently lower the arm with jack (I like plywood between me and spring just in case), and when its all the way down the spring is just barely loaded. I bump it out with my heel, pry tool puts it back. You could put a chain around the frame and run it through the coils so it don't bite. Use your head, be safe. Note clock position of spring, esp at top.
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I worked on recovering the sail panel for the '66 chevelle I set on fire a couple weeks ago... I sprayed both parts with 3M glue and let sit for 15 minutes. Then I used wax paper to leave just a 2" gap for initial contact without trying to hold the fabric away as I smoothed it out. I was able to place the cardboard accurately with the fabric down, but then turned it over and pulled 1 piece of paper out at a time and held the fabric up as I squeegeed it down. It worked great, but I was gun shy with the glue on the edges of the fabric and I had to re-spray them and put weight on to get them to adhere. Everything looks good at this point and I am letting it dry overnight before folding the sides over to be glued down.
Looks like you got er did. Where I hail from we calls them things earmuffs. Only you can prevent Chevelle fires. I hates gluing anything. Don't mind panel bonding but weatherstrips, headliners and such... no fun.
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Tool rentL AT LOCAL PARTS HOUSE , free if you return the spring compressor or you can keep it for the deposit,,i would not attempt it without one,,

get the type that goes thru the center of coil spring where shock bolt goes,,Do Not yse the type with the J hoohs on the outside ,,DANGEROUS
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J hooks are my favorite. I used those to install the rear springs.

I popped the top free. I had my tranny jack about 8" down below the spindle with a wadded up blanket on top. It only popped about an inch and a half downwards.
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I back the nuts off a couple turns and then whack the spindle with the spring pressure pulling down to help pop them loose. Once the taper seat has let go, use the jack to compress the spring some again and pull the top nut off and change the upper ball joint. Attach the upper joint into the spindle again and remove the bottom nut and hold the spindle up out of the way with a bungee cord. The bottom one is pressed into the arm and can be a PITA to get out with the arm on the car, but if you have an impact hammer, they can be "persuaded" to drop out. Once the new ball joint is started in the arm, attach the spindle again and remove the jack, allowing the spring to help pull the joint into the arm, while tapping around the perimeter. You won't have any problem with the joints/spindle separating with the weight of the car on the jack.
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That's what I did for the top, worked fine.
Damn, I thought I was gonna get these changed without taking off the brakes. Backing plate grabs the lower control arm trying to lift the spindle out.

The top joint was still good. No play in it when I wiggle it by hand. Amazing for 49 years old. The original rivets were still there.

I have an installer tool to put the lowers back in.
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Mitch has you covered, sounds like. With engine and trans in she won't hop when it pops. My GP has kinda long control arms but with the bigger jack stands I have, all the way up, I can gently lower the arm with jack (I like plywood between me and spring just in case), and when its all the way down the spring is just barely loaded. I bump it out with my heel, pry tool puts it back. You could put a chain around the frame and run it through the coils so it don't bite. Use your head, be safe. Note clock position of spring, esp at top.
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Working on a hoist. Never mind all this bending over. Except at the end I guess. I will need to lower the car's weight down to get everything back together.
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