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Old 06-21-2019, 05:11 AM
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Ever been the kid with his finger in the dike?


I thought I'd give it a go last night.
So, I get to the cruise Wednesday and I'm leaking gas. I look under the car to see fuel leaking from the canister.


Put it on the hoist to check my theory that the vent tube is immersed in the fuel and pressure build up is pushing it into the canister.
I disconnect the vent hose from the canister and then found a piece of hose that fit snugly into the 5/8 line so I could give it a blow.
Yep, it's blowing bubbles in the tank. Damn. Uh-oh, whats this I hear? Who turned on the faucet? Fuel starts coming out like a garden hose. I hold my thumb on the end, not before getting dosed with gas. Standing under the car looking for a cork.......


I finally see a buffing wheel on top of the welder that was attached to a 3/8 bolt. Grabbed it and plugged the hose, not before getting sprayed some more. Grabbed a gas can and let er rip. About a gallon came out before it stopped.


D'OH!


As you can see, the large vent tube goes right into the gas when the tank is full. Along with another 1/2" drop from the mounting plate. I will burn off all the gas, drop the tank and drill a couple of holes as close to the top as possible.


Double..... D'OH!










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Old 06-21-2019, 05:57 AM
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:00 AM
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Ever been the kid with his finger in the dike?


I thought I'd give it a go last night.
So, I get to the cruise Wednesday and I'm leaking gas. I look under the car to see fuel leaking from the canister.


Put it on the hoist to check my theory that the vent tube is immersed in the fuel and pressure build up is pushing it into the canister.
I disconnect the vent hose from the canister and then found a piece of hose that fit snugly into the 5/8 line so I could give it a blow.
Yep, it's blowing bubbles in the tank. Damn. Uh-oh, whats this I hear? Who turned on the faucet? Fuel starts coming out like a garden hose. I hold my thumb on the end, not before getting dosed with gas. Standing under the car looking for a cork.......


I finally see a buffing wheel on top of the welder that was attached to a 3/8 bolt. Grabbed it and plugged the hose, not before getting sprayed some more. Grabbed a gas can and let er rip. About a gallon came out before it stopped.


D'OH!


As you can see, the large vent tube goes right into the gas when the tank is full. Along with another 1/2" drop from the mounting plate. I will burn off all the gas, drop the tank and drill a couple of holes as close to the top as possible.


Double..... D'OH!










The gas tank I am working on is WAY More my speed. LOLOL

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Old 06-21-2019, 10:49 AM
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Ever been the kid with his finger in the dike?


I thought I'd give it a go last night.
So, I get to the cruise Wednesday and I'm leaking gas. I look under the car to see fuel leaking from the canister.


Put it on the hoist to check my theory that the vent tube is immersed in the fuel and pressure build up is pushing it into the canister.
I disconnect the vent hose from the canister and then found a piece of hose that fit snugly into the 5/8 line so I could give it a blow.
Yep, it's blowing bubbles in the tank. Damn. Uh-oh, whats this I hear? Who turned on the faucet? Fuel starts coming out like a garden hose. I hold my thumb on the end, not before getting dosed with gas. Standing under the car looking for a cork.......


I finally see a buffing wheel on top of the welder that was attached to a 3/8 bolt. Grabbed it and plugged the hose, not before getting sprayed some more. Grabbed a gas can and let er rip. About a gallon came out before it stopped.


D'OH!


As you can see, the large vent tube goes right into the gas when the tank is full. Along with another 1/2" drop from the mounting plate. I will burn off all the gas, drop the tank and drill a couple of holes as close to the top as possible.


Double..... D'OH!











Would not a vented cap prevent pressure build up and solve the problem Pugsy?

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Old 06-21-2019, 01:14 PM
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In a situation like that ,sometimes we dont think ahead ,,I am guilty,,when I remember if I am working on a gas line I take a small pair of vice grips and clamp the rubber hose until I finish what ever I was working on,,i have been covered in gas several times changing a fuel pump,,i guess they start siphoning after you get under the car ,,Just like the car knows when I get under it..
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Old 06-21-2019, 03:28 PM
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Would not a vented cap prevent pressure build up and solve the problem Pugsy?

John



Yes, but my buddy came into my garage once and said he smelled gas, so I went factory correct for this year of engine.
It's actually the rule up here on swaps.


I will correct it. It works fine when the tank is not full.
Oh, I don't consider it a problem. I consider it a mistake that I am responsible for fixing. Screw up, pay the price, ha.....


Not hard to fix up on the hoist with the tranny jack to lower the tank. It will also give me a chance to see how many miles are left when the gas gauge gets down to the E.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:21 PM
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My accomplishment today was to carry a gallon of 2K SPI primer surfacer up to Steve. He had shot 3 coats of the SPI epoxy yesterday and was blocking it today with 180. I think he was pleasently surprised when he was able to block epoxy. This is the first time he has used SPI but I don't think it will be his last.

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Spent the day at Back to the Fifties. I was second in line at the north gate at 11:20 last night and slept in the back seat hotel room of the Impala.
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Didnt actually work on a car today,,But I did work in the shop cleaning and getting rid of a bunch of stull I dont really need,,i had almost a load of cardboard boxes where I have ordered parts,,and still have not opened all of the boxes,,,i also took a pille of useable parts I didnt need,they were all in working condition ,but needed the room more,,Holley Carbs,Qjet carbs ,1 AFB carb,,a stack of manual flywheels ,,clutches and pressure plates, flev plates a set of Hooker BBC headers,seats,and lots of other parts,,

Bad part is I had to Pay by the pound to dump them,

I also sold 2 454 bbc complete engines with all smog still intact and exaust manifolds ,,getting some room to do a little work without having to move something,,Oh yea ..spent 3 hrs cleaning up tools and putting them in correct tool boxes instead of stacking them on tool carts.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:24 PM
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Long story, I was BEAT, fell asleep on the couch at 3 after packing things to move. That was going to be it for me, but my brother was suppose to come over to help us get the rear end in the Falcon. He woke me up at 5ish to tell me he was on the way and I went out in the garage to get the brackets cut off the rear end. That beat the ever loving CRAP out of me! I got them off, as he pulled up, went in to take a shower and when I came back out side he and Nick had finished mounting it in the car.

The second photo is why we need to PROTECT OURSELVES when doing this stuff. That is a cup, 8 ounces of metal dust I swept up of the floor (that I swept before I started.) That is what you BREATH if you aren't protecting yourself! Would you snort that metal? Because that IS what you are doing!

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Not working on it today, but an upgrade to come later on down the road....going from gas and nitrous to alcohol and nitrous.........fun stuff!
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got a new certificate yesterday. Every weld was destructive tested. Teacher said some of my welds were perfect but did have a little trouble setting up my 110 for some thick on thick welding. Overall it was pretty easy once settings were dialed in.

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Cleaned up the steering wheel that came with my '39 Chevy today. Trying to save it because I like old school wheels, and the large diameter for manual steering. It's a big one at 18" diameter.



After some internet searching I think I figured out what it came from. Appears to be a 1951 Pontiac and it's missing the top half of the horn ring. I kinda like the top ring missing, so wont be searching out a new horn ring.
The plastic part cleaned up decent, but chrome wont ever be close to new. Not a big deal though as I don't mind. I D&T 3 holes in the back side to mount a larger trim ring that will match up with the newer Chevy tilt column I'm using on the car.

Also ordered the wheels for the car. A set of American Torq Thrust TTO's in 15"x5" and 15"x8.5". These have the old style peaked spokes and not the new style humped to clear disc brakes. Will decide on tire size once I get the car done enough to know what works best.

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You may find the 8.5 has too much offset to the outside for a wide tire. My '38 came with them and had 235/75/15 tires and still rubbed the fender. I swapped for 8" with 255/60/15 tires and they fit in the fender nicely. The 8.5 has the same inside offset and the additional width goes to the outside. They didn't fit well under any of my 60's cars and I ended up selling them.
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Before I ran off to a day wine tasting with the family I got out for my five minutes on the gas tank so I can get it mounted, should be able to get it in epoxy primer tomorrow.

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