I have a 383, and I got a hold of two free 1970 stock mufflers so I strapped them on (My pipes from my headers are only strapped on for now because I am fine tuning right now) but they sound still quite loud! I have them strapped pretty tight from headers but after muffler there isn't any pipe right now. I'm assuming after I take the car down to the muffler shop and he installs the exhaust correctly that it will quiet up considerbly! Am I right? I was told that these mufflers are really quiet? I do want to use these mufflers if possible, but I also want to have it as quiet as I can get it! Advise, thanks, Dana