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Hey guys,

A co-worker of mine is having issues with her grand am and the dealership is trying to jack her around in my opinion. They say her 2001 grand am uses a transponder based key and will cost big bucks to fix. I tell her "No, 2001 grand am uses passlock, not passkey, and that the ignition cylinder is where it all happens." They want to sell a new key for 85 bucks. I firmly believe that that the key is irrelevant. I know I'm not discussing the full scope of the problem with car, that I'll discuss later. I just want an answer on if the key is transponder based or not, for now.



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Hey Marc. I can't help you, but where the hades have you been? about dang time you showed back up? what, you lose your computer in the move?
 

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I've been a very busy guy... Where do I start. (Well, I should probably update my profile since I no longer live Manitoba, LOL) After breaking up with my girlfriend and deciding to move back to Ontario I ended up with a new girlfriend, then married said girlfriend, then bought a new grand am (unlike my co-workers grand am, mine actually runs :p), then bought a house with new found wife. Did some renos to house to boost resale value. Enrolled in school to become an electrician. And now I'm waiting to take my apprentice acceptance exam with the local union here. :sweat: . Plus, I figured with all the crap that was going on in here last year and having four jaw leave, it would be good to take a little break. It's nice to be back on again, and actually be remembered (can't find a "teary" emote). Talk amongst yourselves for a minute.......ok I'm better now. I'll be back on again later . Talk to you soon.



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My '01 Tahoe uses the transponder key, I'll bet the grand am does too.

I know that late model mustangs do also. Had to study up for a contest , that was one of the bugs on the car.
 

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Now see, I found a guide for GM vehicles and what types of factory systems they have and the Grand am and the Tahoe are both shown as having passlock, not passkey which is transponder based (GM transponder keys are also recognized by the "PK3" stamped on the key shank just below the plastic key head). This is bugging me now because it's hard to find info on this subject and I'm getting ready to confront the dealership about this issue. Thanks for the help so far guys. :thumbup:



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I have a 2000 Buick and it does not have a tp key.... from this it looks like she does


clicky

or go to pontiac.com, register at owners center and check the online owners manual
 

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Great, just great. As I sit here writning a response a sad thing just happened, my cat just died. I know it sounds funny, but it isn't my wife is going to freak. It was a 9 week old kitten that contracted a cold. Looks like he's still alive need vet bye

Ok, well it's official. Sadly my kitten has passed on at 9:08pm :(. Now I have to figure out what to do with him, and how to explain this to my wife as compassionately as possible.


Now back to the subject at hand. I reviewed the web page from bulldog security that you posted, which was pretty straight forward except for one flaw, it has years that don't coincide with passlock and some vehicles that are listed for a particular key are listed went from style to a completly different style (i.e. chevy cavalier had a single sided key in 1991 all the way until the body style changed in 95 going to a double sided key, yet apparently they say that the 91 cav uses a transponder key. Same with grand am.) Now considering passlock II was only introduced in 1995 that chart is wrong as far as the key and the application. Cavaliers had no anti-theft systems until 1995. There are a few others also that don't match up. There also trying to say that a 1987 delta 88 uses the same key as a chevy venture van. Sorry for scrutinizing the link to the web sight like that.

Some insurance thing
I have a link here to an insurance bureau. Read it and tell me what ya think. Any body work for gm here that would know the answer to this question because I will unleash misery on the dealership if they are trying to screw over people like that.

Thanks again guys.


Marc
 
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