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sorry for the dumb questions but,
I have aquired a 41 ford coupe
seller said it was a opry coupe.
It is a long door coupe.
Is this the same a business coupe?
I need a left frame rail for this car, could possably use front half of a left frame rail....
which coupe and what years am i looking for?

Business coupe
Opry coupe? is there a difference?
Any others?

thanks in advance
Rob
 

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The long door coupe is a Sedan Coupe. The short door coupe is called simply a 5-window Coupe.
Ford never made a car called an Opera Coupe. 39 and 40 Ford Standard and DeLuxe Business Coupes had 2 Opera seats behind the seat which faced each other. The front seats of business coupes are split back like Tudor sedans for access to rear seating. The Standard and Deluxe 5-window Coupes had a seat back which pulled up from the bottom to access the storage area behind the seat.
 

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pasadenahotrod said:
The long door coupe is a Sedan Coupe. The short door coupe is called simply a 5-window Coupe.
Ford never made a car called an Opera Coupe. 39 and 40 Ford Standard and DeLuxe Business Coupes had 2 Opera seats behind the seat which faced each other. The front seats of business coupes are split back like Tudor sedans for access to rear seating. The Standard and Deluxe 5-window Coupes had a seat back which pulled up from the bottom to access the storage area behind the seat.


There sure is a lot of information in cyberland about the Ford Opera Coupe, but no details, like doors. Tell me more about the doors, please.
 

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pasadenahotrod said:
There may be lots of information in cyberland about Ford Opera Coupes, but in Fordland there ain't no such animal, nor car either.

So, the long door coupe you spoke about doesn't exist?....... That's really interesting.
 

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pasadenahotrod said:
What part of "Ford never made a car called an Opera Coupe" don't you understand. Ford made a long door coupe and referred to it as a Sedan Coupe.

I am not sure what is happening here.... :confused: Please reread carefully what I wrote in each post.

What part of "Tell me about the doors, please" don't YOU understand....

You started out saying there were two different door sizes.
If you don't know how much longer they are, then just say so.

You should know that there is lot of common terminology applied to vehicles and people know what they are, even though the factory did not apply that particular words to the options. Steel top convertible, drag-pack, etc.

You might be the most knowledgeable Ford guy in the world, but I/we don't know who you are besides some handle on a website.

You are refuting "common vernacular" with no documentation whatsoever to back up your statements.

What part of "Tell me about the doors, please" don't YOU understand....

:rolleyes: Never mind...... I will find all the info for myself.
 

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We have covered this before, but here goes again. I will stay specific with the 41, though the 46, 47, and 48 are basically the same. The 41 business coupe can be identified by a "short door" which is the same door as on the 4 door sedan. The seat is not split: it is one piece bottom and back, but the back is hinged at the top so it can be raised up (has a latch to keep it up much like the trunk latch) and allow access to the big space between trunk and seat. There is a package tray installed behind the seat and was a great place for a 40's businessman to carry samples, catalogs etc. The quarter windows were fixed-could not be opened or rolled down. The rear deck was longer and provided the best body lines of all the 41s.

The 41 coupe has the "long door" which is the same door as on the 41 2 door sedan and convertible coupe. The front seat had a one piece bottom and a two piece back that hinged at the bottom to allow easier access to the rear seat which was a small bench seat in most models. There was optional two small side facing seats and thus coined the term Opera Coupe that us old timers have heard many times. The rear quarter windows could be unlatched and swung out much like the old vent windows. Some later models could be rolled up and down. The rear deck was shorter producing more stubby body lines.

If you need a left frame rail, look for any 41. The rail dimensions are going to be the same. Even though there are some minor differences as to fender and running board mounting patterns, the frames rails were stamped with holes for all of the configurations. Dimensionally, the rails are the same up thru 48, but the hole patterns change slightly but don't turn one down because of that!!! Forget about 40 and older. Totally different.

By the way, I had all the literature on this stuff at one time and still have access to it when ever I want to make the 1200 mile trip (one way).

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Hi I believe pasadenahotrod is correct in his reply in this matter but I think what he is asking is size for the 41 ford door, for that the 5 window coupe (the short door) its 36" and for the sedan coupe its 42" (long door)
 
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