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a few things... (been doing research for the same thing myself)...
schroth harnesses are very nice... forget the web address at the moment... they're street legal (most aren't), and they make a 4-point harness (about all you can do with stock seats anyway cause a crotch strap going in front of the seat doesn't do all that much) with a pushbutton release and single latch. i'll second Chumpy... according to my dad (ex-offroader), racing harnesses are a real pain to put on... i believe it. on to the next thing:
yes, racing harnesses have a definite 'cool' factor, which i understand completely, and i'll probably put them in too. BUT... what you're thinking of doing (as i understand it) just plain isn't smart.
1) racing harnesses, unlike shoulder straps, don't let you duck out of them if your car rolls. so, with no rollbar, if your roof caves in, you break your neck. which is why no rallying groups let members run with harness and no rollbar. so... put in a rollbar with harnesses.
2) you cannot use the stock shoulder strap mounting point, 'cause it's off-center. also, mounting them to the floor is one of the biggest no-nos (think about a crash... your body moves forward with pretty impressive kinetic energy, and unless the seat back holds -not at all a given with stock seats- your spine gets crushed). so unless you have a rollbar, again, it's not worth it.
good harnesses run about $150 apiece. you can get bargains looking around, just don't get the weapon-4 ones they sell on ebay (POS ricey knockoffs). and yes, wider belts are more comfortable.
nice-looking, comfortable seats are easy to get if you want to spend the $. try looking on e-bay for recaros, you can get decent deals (i did at least), and most are plain black or gray, cloth-covered, and adjustable, and metal-framed, unlike comparably priced seats from Summit (molded fiberglass with optional vinyl covering).
all of this is very extreme, i know, but you're installing seat belts so you'll be safe if a crash happens, and it doesn't make sense to leave out any possibilities. good luck, keep researching, tell me what i got wrong, i'll step off the soapbox now.
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[ January 03, 2003: Message edited by: steppenwolf ]</p>
 

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oh yeah. forgot the the whole person in the back thing - it goes with the mounting issue. if you put in a roll bar, it'll be much harder for them to get in and out. if you attach the harness to the floor (with stock seats), you're asking for it. even race seats have to have good harness attachment points, because the belts hold you and the seat in place, most of the time, rather than the seat holding you and the belts in place. good luck w/ your setup.
<a href="http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/newstore.php?m=12&sub=382" target="_blank">http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/newstore.php?m=12&sub=382</a> is schroth's distributor page.
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agreed about female passengers, although the harnesses i'm planning to install don't have antisubmarine straps. <img src="graemlins/pain.gif" border="0" alt="[pain]" /> ... shoulda thought of that.
rollcage or bar would definitely be a good idea, although you'll start driving more aggressively (well, dunno if that's possible, stoned) 'cause you feel safer, which can do more harm than good. i'lll keep you posted on doing an interior with a rollcage (i'm trying, but not keeping the back seat).
actually, if you rip out the strap that goes between your legs you'll never get screwed again. :D . seriously, that strap is only there to stop you sliding out from under the harness... the side straps hold the most load in a crash. use the stock mounting points for those and you should be ok.
man, my memory is going.. barz and stoned, check out <a href="http://www.ioportracing.com/rollbar1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ioportracing.com/rollbar1.htm</a> for prices at least.
good luck, both.
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ok, on second thought, i don't wholeheartedly endorse Autopower bars/cages... their bolt-in setups look pretty cheesy, they're not NHRA certifiable (not only not certified, but cannot be certified), and they don't include a rollbar with their cage prices. so... look around on the net and in town - if you're friends with a body shop, they may be able to bend tubing for you if you mock it up.
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