aguila1 said:When I stopped to talk to a mechanic bent over a 50's relic in old Havana, I asked him how he kept these old V-8s running. His response - "Los Cubanos somos mañosos", meaning that the Cuban people were very skillful. They had to be to survive in the dehumanizing conditions of the tyrant's regime. I learned about the thousands that die every year trying to escape to Florida in anything they could, despite the shark-infested waters; about the two boys that had stolen a fishing boat and were summarily shot when caught and about their mother who threw herself from their apartment building when she found out.
That these ingenious people could rig together a craft from a car to escape under the threat of death from above and below the water is a testament to the human spirit. It is an action we should applaud. They should be welcomed as true Americans in the purest sense of the word and welcomed as heroes. That some only see the plight of the immigrant, in a land built of and by immigration, as a threat to their own security, is a sad commentary on the state of mind of the typical American, blind to everything but his own needs and incapable of empathy for human suffering beside
i think you need to read what i wrote again and not think the american people forgot where we came from! so, blind no!
its not fair for us to lose our jobs that we work for so hard (i lost my job after 10 years of hard work) to ANYONE who undercuts us, then goes home. oh its also great to pay taxes to support them while they are here,they get gov. assistance without green card or work visa.
like i said i have no problem with foreigners who keep an even playing field, i know i can compete with that.
poncho62 said:Government policies aside, can you really blame those people in that Buick for trying to improve their lives?
Sorry, I think you're wrong. America was built on the melding of immigrants into one people. Legal immigration is not at issue here. We do not have problems with those who enter here through our legal processes. They swear allegiance to the US and disavow any allegiance to foreign governments when they become citizens. We have to accept that their oath is clear and from the heart.poncho62 said:ILLEGAL ALIENS....................all well and good.....But, How many Americans feel that all immigration should be illegal? Most immigrants are NOT illegal and they are still looked down upon.
We have the same thing going on here in Canada, so its not just an American thing.
I seem to remember stories from some old Indian about how the white man came along and stole their jobs (hunting) and moved into their land and took all their fringe benefits (buffalo)........................But, I guess turn about is NOT fair play.
It's called progress..........In 1000 years or so, we will all speak some form of language and will all be a tan colour.
To the lounge...............xntrik said:This thread was intended to be about the creativity of the motivated human mind.
I'm almost sorry I started it.
Now it belongs in the lounge.
I certainly have no complaint about legal immigrants continuing to celebrate their customs unless those customs are illegal in this country (female castration for example).poncho62 said:Trouble is...posters are going on and on about the immigrants (legal or illegal) customs and how they have no right to express them. You are right....The counttry was built on immigrants....and is still being built on immigrants, so you have to accept that things are going to continue to change. You can't just come along one day and say...."OK, all immigrants must stop their ways now, and must totally immerse into the culture that we have at this moment"
Or...You can't say...."Hey, that immigrant's custom is kind of cute, we will adopt that one, but the one where he wears that towel on his head.....No friggin' way"
It doesn't work that way............everything evolves........whether you like it or not. Things constantly change....for the better or worse.